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After the recent vetoing of the drivers license for illegal aliens bill in California by Governor Schwarzenegger several other items have popped up.

First we have the response from Mexico on the recent veto.

A top foreign relations official on Thursday lambasted California Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger's veto of legislation that would have allowed undocumented migrants to obtain a driver's licenses in the state.

... It would have enabled an estimated 2 million Mexicans living in California to drive legally.

Juan Bosco Martí, general director for North American affairs with the Foreign Relations Secretariat (SRE) said in a press conference the Mexican government is very concerned by the action.

Bosco said the inability of undocumented workers to obtain a driver's license hurts all migrants in California, not just Mexicans.

"The Mexican government will continue to defend the interests of the Mexican community residing in California within the realm of the laws of the United States and California," he said.

... Bosco said the Mexican government would continue to promote the use of consulate-issued I.D. cards to help give migrants in the United States a means of identification that they can use to obtain U.S. drivers' licenses, bank accounts and other services.

The SRE says the cards are accepted as valid identification in 33 U.S. states, 1,180 police departments and 178 banks, and that it has issued 2.2 million of them since March 2002.

2 million illegal aliens in California he means. The only people who can't get a license are those here that cannot prove they are here legally. Legal immigrants do not have a problem getting a license because they have the documents and are not breaking the law. The vetoing of this bill does not "hurt all migrants in the state", only illegal aliens. Why the hell is Mexico sticking its nose in our business anyway. They're the reason people are flooding into or country illegally and refuse to do anything about it.

The second item we have is from the Long Beach Press Telegram.

There will be no driver's licenses for illegal immigrants anytime soon. And that is plenty soon enough.


The real debate isn't about driving, it's about an attempt to "legalize," as much as possible, the immigration status of people who are here illegally. A driver's license is the primary tool of identification in California, and it can be used for many purposes other than driving.

Right on! They hit the nail on the head.

Our third item is a story from The Arizona Republic where a group of 26 DMV workers have been busted illegally issuing drivers licenses.

Federal and state agents Thursday charged 26 state workers with illegally issuing driver's licenses to human traffickers, undocumented immigrants and drug dealers, calling the actions a threat to national security.


Authorities believe unconnected groups of MVD employees at 10 locations throughout the state took bribes of $600 to $3,500 in exchange for creating untold numbers of fake driver's licenses. In addition to the state workers, eight non-government employees were charged with felonies connected to the scams.

U.S. Attorney Paul Charlton said that there was no evidence any of the fraudulent transactions were terrorist-related but that the potential existed.

"These documents would allow an individual, with a false name, to travel direct from Phoenix on an airplane to Washington, D.C.," Charlton said. "It would allow an individual with a false name, but with an otherwise official document, to purchase a weapon at a pawnshop. It would allow an individual to pass through a Border Patrol checkpoint just north of the Arizona line."

This is the same Drivers License that California legislators wanted to give away. Don't be fooled by the falsehood that these are just to help immigrants get around in a car. The national security implications are tremendous. Giving anyone who can haul their but across a small patch of land in Arizona or California and then getting a license allows them to acquire weapons and fast transportation throughout the country.

The last of our items for the fallout of the vetoing is this multiple choice item from Lonewacko blog. Link opens in a new window, go over there and read it then come back here.

From The Monitor in Texas.

Weslaco State Rep. Miguel "Mike" Wise recently received one of Mexico’s highest honors for civilians, in part for his work in trying to secure driver’s licenses for undocumented workers.

The Republic of Mexico gave Wise the Ohtli Award, awarded to people or organizations that impact the lives of Mexican nationals living abroad.

He is the fourth Texas legislator ever to receive the award, and did so largely because of his work during his six years in the House pushing legislation that would allow residents who are not citizens to have driver’s licenses.


He hopes to continue working to help undocumented immigrants get driver’s licenses, as well as pushing for the Legislature to recognize the Mexican-issued matricula consular identification card as a valid form of photo identification in business and government transactions, he said.

Given an award by a foreign government for influencing our laws which not only put our citizens at risk, but reward people for breaking our laws. What an asshat!

For more on the matricula consular ID which is rampantly forged and has been determined by our own FBI to be a threat to national security see my entry "A Major Blow Dealt To Our Homeland Security" from September 16th.

Others commenting on Governor Schwarzenegger vetoing of the bill:
Say Anything
Boots and Sabres

I'd also like to thank Lonewacko blog for his entries: "26 Arizona DMV workers caught in driver's license scam", "Driver's license bill belongs in the dumper", "Reaction to Arnold's veto from south of the border, "One of these really happened"

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If ilegals are given driver licenses,What will they be asking for next? Driver licenses no,deportation YES.That not only goes from ilegals from Mexico,but from all over.They are taking our jobs.Many companies don't even speak English anymore.What the hell?

Posted by: junior on January 27, 2005 07:53 AM

With or without driver licenses illegal people still driving. If they taking the our jobs like Junior said that's either to lazy to do the job or a loser to even try.

Posted by: guest on February 10, 2005 03:10 PM

god i hope u get hit by some illegal alien that is going to his low wage job that no other american (myself included) would never want to do for the wage he gets. Because he can't get a drivers licenses ur insurance is going to have to pay the bill and your insurances rates will go up.

Posted by: Gilberto Ramos-Salamanca on October 3, 2005 05:03 PM

So all of us here legally, both citizens and immigrants, should have to suffer at the hands of someone who snuck into the country illegally rather than deterring them from coming here?

That's a ridiculous argument.

"You should have to suffer because you won't give criminals benefits they shouldn't be entitled to."

What a load of horsecrap.

Posted by: Digger on October 3, 2005 05:33 PM

Whoever runs this site 'Digger' needs to be educated instead of running off at the mouth. OK, we believe that you don't like Hispanics. Enough said! Why don't you take some time and your misguided energy to try and fix some of the problems with some good ideas and forethought instead of ranting things like:

"You should have to suffer because you won't give criminals benefits they shouldn't be entitled to."

Criminals? Many of our ancestors once upon a time came here illegally to help build this great country. Were they criminals, or did they just want a better life? Didn't they work hard to make a better life for you and for me? Yes they did. Who determined that they shouldn't be entitled to benefits? You? Are you really an American?

Actually, Gilberto had a good point and you didn't even listen to him, you just did your usual attack on someone who doesn't believe the way you do. Very immature!

In fact, if you were to do a little study on the subject, you might find that these 'illegals' are a very strong, important and necessary portion of our economy that we can't do without. We are lucky they still want to come to the US (no thanks to people like you). They work tirelessly at jobs us white folks don't want to do. They actually show up for work on time every day and don't complain. Then when we are done for the day and we go home, they go to their second or third job. They are appreciative of what they receive, and they send most of their money back to their relatives in Mexico so they can have a better life too.

Rather than go on with telling you how unintelligent you sound on here, I will just wrap it up by saying that it is people like you who don't think things through that stand in the way of progress. Not just your progress, but all of our progress. Why don't you take some of your energy and try to make things better by putting something together instead of tearing it apart?

Posted by: Doug Perry on September 26, 2006 05:13 PM

Hey Doug,

I appreciate your comment and compliments.

However, I have been covering this issue for just about 5 years and if you'd do a little research you'll find that whole American communities are being destroyed by illegal aliens. For instance Texas border towns and their health care systems. Administrators in the hospital have found a few days ago that over 70% of their births are to illegal aliens who don't pay and

In all, 57,072 patients visited the district's hospitals, clinics and health centers last year, and nearly a fifth were undocumented, Rasp said. The cost of their treatment was $97.3 million, up from $55 million in 2002.

This is happening all along the southern border and that is just one district.

This is in America let me remind you. We don't owe anything to anyone other than to Americans first. Once we can take care of our own then we can concern ourselves with being saviors of the continent.

If you don't see this current invasion of illegal aliens as a real problem and unprecedented in American history then there's not much I can do other than to point you to the immigration archive and maybe you'll realize that, while most illegal aliens mean well and work hard, they are costing us far more than they contribute and destroying all of our social systems in the process through fraud and lack of action by our government.

Or of course you can continue to ignore the problem and watch as it grows from the 20 million here now to the 50+ million in the next decade or so. We can also continue to watch as our school systems and health care systems continue to decline and less American are served in order to provide for illegal entrants into our country.

And no I don't hate Mexicans, I hate the illegal alien problem, whether it comes from Russia, Italy, China, Poland, Mexico, South America, or wherever. It's just more pronounced because Mexico is right next to us and actively working to push more people into our country illegally. They're not supposed to be here and the fact that I'm attacked for wanting our laws upheld, America to remain a sovereign nation and American taxpayers to be served ahead of illegal foreigners, is just telling that a lot of people in this country are hiding from reality and seem to hate their fellow Americans.

Ever been out of the country Doug or have you just grown up in the same cushy life with illegal alien slave labor mowing your lawn?

Posted by: Digger on September 26, 2006 08:54 PM

the only people here that arent immigrants are the indians so give Illegals a drivers lisence

Posted by: Gorge on December 20, 2006 10:29 PM

I totaly disagree with all of this coments.Migrant people realy do contribute to this country. If there's no people to work then the economy will sufer and the US will loose power over the world

Posted by: katie on March 16, 2007 07:12 PM

Anglos don't see the real truth of inmigrants that come to this county specially latinos..They are the best consumers in the market and bussiness' whant them. They keep all the prices at a lower price.Diver's license will provide more information of people it would make our roads safer.AND insurance would never go up. Instead this will be a good new for the insurance companies and other companies.Let't face the real truth

Posted by: Katie on March 16, 2007 07:22 PM

I would like to suggest to all those who belive themselves are Americans to read the American Constitution and learn more about the American History"the real history". For many year this country has been promoting democrasy to other countries..when the US is the first one to violate the laws of all people's rights. Americans are just afraid because they don't whant to see color people to become successful.

Posted by: Katie on March 16, 2007 07:29 PM

Anglos don't see the real truth of inmigrants that come to this county ... They keep all the prices at a lower price...

... including the wages of our low wage earning citizens and legal residents in this country.

Your assertion that this is "Anglos" versus "immigrants" is not what the issue is. The issue is "Americans" versus "illegal aliens". Your leaving off the "illegal" part in your comment really is a shameful tactic.

Illegal aliens come in all shapes sizes and colors, to try and add some sort of racial component to it is disingenuous.

the US is the first one to violate the laws of all people's rights. Americans are just afraid because they don't whant to see color people to become successful.

Which "people's rights" are we violating? Illegal aliens have no rights in this country because they are not legally here. If you were referring to human rights, then show me how denying them a drivers license (a privilege in this country, not a right) or sending them back to their own country is a human rights violation.

And there are plenty of "color people" in America that are successful. The difference is that they are legal and do things by the laws of this land rather than demand handouts after breaking the law.

Posted by: Digger on March 17, 2007 01:02 AM

don't be stupid and stop acting like little kids,, all of us know that illegal immigrants contribute alot to this country and people. perhaps dont forget that everybody here is an immigrant except the indians so dont get all crazy white people.. you are still an immigrant and if you dont know search it and youll find out where you come from.... you make me laught cuz you forgot about your backgrownd. funny people. lol illegal immigrnts are the best.. ask me about it.. still here.. lol

Posted by: gg on April 5, 2007 02:49 PM

And most Mexicans are Natives, Or indians as you may call it.

Posted by: jessie on March 24, 2008 02:23 PM

One of the biggest problems in the immigration "issue" is the fact that our government allows almost unlimited "legal" immigration from many countries, ie.most far-east nations, brings hundreds of thousands in for "humanitarian" reasons --refugees-- and has a "lottery" every year for new immigrants from every nation EXCEPT Canada and Mexico.
Allow fairness in legal immigration and it is possible that the illegal issue will disappear!!

Posted by: George on August 19, 2008 04:53 PM

Speeding is illegal and we can't stop it .. oh but wait .. nobody is talking about not writing speeding tickets or saying it's not breaking the law.

It does not matter if there is a benefit or not. This is not a matter of undocumented person. The truth is in America illegal immigration is a crime.
Saying that does not make someone a hater.

So you show up at the hospital and they ask you for a green card.. (I know that is illegal but why still confuses me) you are treated and if you are illegal you are turned over to authorities.

The idea of giving a drivers to an illgal is confusing as well. When they present documentation to prove who they are it would be obvious that they don't belong here and then would be turned over to Immigration, thus never getting a drivers lic. Last time I went to even replace a lost lic I had to produce and present a birth certificate.

So I guess my quesion is .. do we not know what illegal means? I wish ya'll would make this much effort to get me me amnesty for my last speeding ticket. After all us speeders are just trying to be more productive and keep the economy going.

Have a great day folks...


Posted by: Kelly sleeper on May 14, 2009 11:34 AM

it will be intresting to see all the white boy's doing the roofing job's dishwasher's maid's all the hard manual labor yep it will open up lot's of work for them good ol boys. o and by the way your next govenor might be hispanic, oh no what then????

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