/ September 3, 2008 11:20 PM
Vice Presidential Candidate Sarah Palin
absolutely knocked it out of the park tonight at the Republican National Convention. There is absolutely no doubt about that. I would just like to remind everyone that as much as you may like Sarah Palin...
She is not the one who will be president
John McCain will be president, if you vote for their ticket, and I can almost guarantee you that someone who wrote a law for amnesty for illegal aliens and talked about them as "God's children" so many times and has put Juan Hernandez on his campaign staff as his Hispanic Outreach Director, has not changed his mind on illegal immigration.
If anything, the one thing that the Republicans harp on over and over is that he is a man of conviction. That being the case you can be sure that his conviction on giving amnesty to illegal aliens will continue.
I am a man of conviction as well and I "convicted" that I would not forget McCain's traitorous behavior to all Americans and legal residents of this country when he tried to force that amnesty for illegal aliens through.
Some have said to me that "well, we'll end up with Obama if I don't pick McCain". Well, you've just fallen into the trap that the Republicans have laid by nominating John McCain for president. They knew that you would fall in lockstep and forget all of the anti-American actions that John McCain took just a little over a year ago. Don't be a gullible fool and forget the battles we fought to prevent amnesty for illegal aliens from being passed.
I will still not be voting for McCain, even with this outstanding woman on the ticket. I stand by my statement that I don't feel that she is quite experienced enough yet. A few more years of proven success by Sarah Palin would quell my resistances to her being a potential president should the "main man" die. Two years as governor of such a small state - in population - is just not enough.
I'm sick of bowing to the political machine of the Republican Party who keep forcing choices on us that the American people don't want. And I refuse to bow to them this time. A serious lack of votes and support should change their tune that they can't do one thing one year and then turn around the next - with a bunch of words - and expect the true conservatives - of which I count myself - to just bow down and take it.
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Posted by Digger on September 3, 2008 11:20 PM (Permalink)
I agree 100%. Sarah Palin is indeed a dynamo and a great speaker and a leader of the kind we will be seeing around for years to come.. BUT it does not change the fact that her state is a sanctuary state for illegal aliens and that the man she stands behind is ready to sell out this country by putting MILLIONS of illegal aliens on a "path to citizenship" so that he can look "compassionate" to the huge Hispanic market that they all perceive to be for illegal immigration (which is wrong). I beg to differ that McCain is the same man to every audience because to the true conservatives he talks about securing the border and at the La Raza Convention, he speaks of being "humane" to the people who are already here. You can't have it both ways McCain. We SHOULD HAVE SECURED THE BORDER IN 1986 WITH THE FIRST AMNESTY AND HE DID NOT PUSH FOR THIS IN ALL HIS YEARS IN THE SENATE.
So to all of you who are wowed by the "package" of Sarah Palin - you are just drinking the smoke and mirrors kool aid that the Republican PR machine has prepared for you.. and like lambs to the slaughter you willingly fall in line behind the man who is essentially a traitor to this country.
Posted by: Ruthiness on September 3, 2008 11:53 PM
Barring some over the top revalation that I don't see forthcoming, I don't see the Obama ticket doing anything that will lessen illegal immigration. Every time I have contacted my senators (Obama and Durbin), they have more reasons than you can even imagine why curbing immigration is impossible. Their sole purpose in life is to continue to be elected or re-elected. They have put the welcome mat out on the border. While Mrs. Palin may only be elected as Vice-President, as presiding officer of the Senate she has a say in what bills are brought to the floor of the Senate for deliberation. This is the power she would have. Kool-aid or not, your other option is no help at all. Whether or not we should have done something in 1986 is not relevant to today because we didn't do it. No one can say what would have happened. We should never have changed immigration limits in 1970 if you want to go back. What good does all this hind-sight do for us now?
Posted by: hammer18w on September 4, 2008 01:46 AM
I have already mentioned though that Sarah Palin's stance on illegal immigration is unknown.
A week later, The Hill has finally picked up on it and contacted the McCain campaign and their response is this:
A spokesman for McCain’s campaign did not respond to a request to describe Palin’s views on immigration.
For all we know she could be a bigger supporter of illegal aliens than even John McCain.
I am simply shocked at the amount of people who have jumped on the bandwagon only a week after her being picked and without knowing her stances at all.
After all Alaska is a sanctuary state and she has been in office for two years.
I simply don't go on hype.
Posted by: Digger on September 4, 2008 01:59 AM
Here we go again! Knowing nothing about Sarah Palin (no TV here) it immediately became apparent why John McCain picked Sarah Palin for VP.
Could McCain have picked a candidate farther from our southern border with Mexico? What does she know about the problems in the southwestern parts of the United States with illegal immigration? (Probably plenty, and she's going to milk the illegal alien employer lobby for all they're worth.) Has the phrase "illegal immigration" EVER been part of her public discourse?
McCain knows he might not survive his full term of office, as he is actuarilly at the upper limits of the human lifespan. Is this his way of leaving his legacy of amnesty for countless millions of additional illegal aliens behind, by picking a possible successor that, because she has no position on what most of the electorate considers a huge problem, will be in support of McCain's amnesty sympathies?
And could it be that she may have a warped sense of sympathy for Mexico's claims to the southwest, since her husband is part Alaskan native? Additionally she is a convert to Pentacostalism from Roman Catholicism (Note that there are no Roman Catholic churches in Wasilla, Alaska). Could that be part of the amnesty mix as well? After all, what organization would benefit more from additional waves of illegal immigrants? And what organization publicly supports their illegal entry more?
As Governor, Palin has been given accolades for her tough stance on penalizing the "good 'ol boy network". Really! The biggest "good 'ol boy network" in this country consists of employers who thrive by having many illegal aliens working for them. So now she is the latest one on the take to further her political ambitions with the illegal alien employer lobby.
Not to worry. The rest of us will pay the increased health insurance premiums, auto insurance premiums, school taxes, infrastructure improvements for an increased illegal alien population, expanded prison systems, subsidized housing, degraded hospital facilities due to emergency room closings, deteriorating incomes (from having to compete with illegal alien labor), destruction of our common language, our culture and our borders.
How fortunate it is to conclude the obvious without the benefit (?) of a TV. There certainly is no perceivable beauty in this picture wrought by knowledge of the facts of Palin's bio, public statements and record as a Governor. She may be a spokesperson for adding to our energy needs. But if the price is additional millions of illegal residents they will easily consume whatever addtional domestic energy supplies that are brought online.
And what about Ramos and Compean. Will McCain pardon them? Would she? Would she support such a pardon? She has 2 sons in the military. Are her political ambitions so great that she would not wish to touch the subject of their imprisonments with a ten foot pole for fear of limiting her chances, and probably alienating McCain.
One more thought here. Obama/Biden are even worse.
Posted by: Mark Cowest on September 4, 2008 02:18 AM
I think you may have gone just a little too far Mark on conjecture, but I share your concerns. The fact that the McCain camp would not immediately return questioning of her immigration stance shows that either they truly don't know it (in which case, what kind of actual "vetting" did they do of this VP candidate and what other things have they overlooked?) or they know it and are hiding it.
Immigration is a huge issue in this country - consistently in the top 5 of concerns - so to not know a candidate's stance on the issue is pretty damn telling. However, I will not outright condemn her without facts.
I would also never vote for her or any candidate in any race who is not straight forward in addressing illegal immigration. Voting for someone when you don't even know what the heck they're going to do...? *shakes head*
Posted by: Digger on September 4, 2008 03:12 AM
I'd like to add that.. even if at this point the McCain "campaign" promised to secure the border first and then deport the millions of illegal aliens, I would not believe his promises. Actions speak louder than words and by his actions of actually SPONSORING that HORRID AMNESTY BILL IN 2006, he has told me everything I need to know. Furthermore, he reached across the aisle to hug none other than Teddy Kennedy - poor choice of Dems to work with in my opinion! Teddy Kennedy is about as left wing as you can get.
Also - what makes everyone think that John McCain the "maverick" is going to listen to anybody - especially "we the people" once he gets his butt in the White Hous? Does everyone forget his famous temper tantrums? Do people who are NOW considering voting for him forget so quickly????? McCain's ability to abuse power is going to reach new heights - even worse than the Bush White House.
I'm voting neither Republican nor Democrat. We have been given the worst choices in Presidents in recent history and I'm not going to choose the lesser of two evils!!!!
Posted by: Ruthiness on September 4, 2008 09:27 AM
I go back to something that Donald Rumsfeld said, "YOU FIGHT WITH THE ARMY YOU HAVE." Who do we have the best chance of influencing ? Who do we have any access to ? And remember, we have defeated a number of attempts at amnesty because of determination and a coalition of Republicans and Democrats. Those Democrats are likely as sick of the direction the Democrat Party has taken as we are.
To say, I'm not going to vote for McCain/Palin because of McCain's comments is as short sighted as one can get. He is President but if we keep calling,faxing e mailing, writing each time an amnesty bill comes up ,then how can an amnesty bill get to any Presidents desk ?
AGAIN. WHO DO WE HAVE THE BEST CHANCE OF INFLUENCING: OBAMA OR MCCAIN ? THE ANSWER IS OBVIOUS.
Posted by: JOHN CHINN on September 5, 2008 08:31 AM
John Chinn---you are absolutely correct-----I am totally AGAINST amnesty of any kind and I too believe if and when the issue comes up again WE THE PEOPLE will shut it down AGAIN. John McCain was not my first choice, but he is a far better choice than BHO --- we need to remember the Judges Obama would put on the Supreme Court, the tax increases that will come with Obama the complete big government take over that Obama desires---these are major issues too. John McCain has said he loves this country and I believe him, he has said he will work for the American people and I will hold his feet to the fire on that one!! We have complained and gripped about needing a change in Washington----less government and more power to the citizens----I for one am going to give McCain the benefit of the doubt---I will vote for him and I will stay on his case regarding illegal immigration and absolutely NO AMNESTY IN ANY WAY, SHAPE OR FORM. If this is a mistake, then I will live with it, but I KNOW Obama will be a disaster and thats a mistake I can not live with.
Posted by: Sabrina on September 5, 2008 10:32 AM
You are talking about two different things. President and Congress. I refuse to give my vote for president to either of these scam artists. Keep bowing to their wishes and you'll keep getting candidates like these.
As for Congress, that is our last stand. It shouldn't be taken for granted that the American people will stand up and call in next time.
I think you're kind of short-sighted to give McCain the "benefit of the doubt after all he has done to pass amnesty for illegal aliens.
Posted by: Digger on September 5, 2008 02:26 PM
Do you all forget the promises that BUSH made during his re-election campaigns and we see how much of those promises actually happen. Why do fools like you keep on drinking the "I believe what they say in a campaign" KOOL-AID. You are playing right into the hands of the enemy! This is exactly what they want you to think. You are being PLAYED. John McCain DOES NOT LOVE HIS COUNTRY because if he did - he would not be pandering to a RACIST group like La Raza and other pro-illegal alien ethno-centric Anti-American groups.
You are like the fiddlers in Rome while Rome burned. The barbarians are INSIDE THE GATE and people like you continue to fiddle.. that is what I find most disgusting about most Americans.. they are blind and ignorant to their own self-destruction!
Posted by: Ruthiness on September 5, 2008 02:32 PM
I am with you on this point Digger. She won't be the president. I too will not support McAmnesty, although I like Palin. Now some say a vote for Baldwin or to write in Paul is throwing your vote away. I disagree. The only way change will come is if people vote their heart and conscience. No more holding my nose and voting for the lesser of the two evils. Evil is evil no matter what order it is in. Palin is good for the Republican Party, she is a dynamo If McAmnesty loses, Palin will probably be a front runner in the next presidential election cycle. There is a bit of hopeful news that is going around the net. I have read there is a fair probability that McAmnesty may only seek one term if elected. More then likely because of his health. I wouldn't take odds that would happen, we all know of his ego. I suspect he would run again unless he was on his death bed.
As for Palins immigration stance,it was reported over at Glenn Spencer's site that Laura Ingraham spoke with Palin a few months ago and she was against comprehensive immigration reform. That may have changed, but who knows?
Posted by: Brad on September 5, 2008 07:00 PM
All great observations. I would only add that McCain didn't pick Palin for her views, but because she would complement his. His speech carried immigrants, God's children and we are all Americans practically in the same sentence. And don't forget the history, McCain will forever hold a grudge over his amnesty defeat. And nobody seems to get more enjoyment from payback or from stabbing the base in the back than McCain. Now as Digger has noted, Ruben Navarrette nods his head to the ticket? Red Flag is an understatement.
Posted by: Nikita on September 6, 2008 12:25 AM
I've heard Ingraham running all over and saying that, but one statement, months ago does not make a stance.
I have never heard the quote of exactly what she said. If someone could hunt that down I'll post it.
Posted by: Digger on September 6, 2008 03:48 AM
I agree with Digger. How soon people forget that McCain turned his back on the American people. Do we have a real choice. In my opinion, A Big NO! At this point I cant vote for either of these two candidates.
Posted by: Richard Marsteller on September 6, 2008 09:12 AM
Asked to take down their sign at the RNC.
These young men were very articulate in their response to the request to remove their sign.
I understand their befuddlement. I too, wondered why the immigration issue vanished. It is simply too hot a potato for the campaign trail. Neither candidate can afford to lose a single vote. McCain's choice of Palin has helped this bitter pill go down.
Unfortunately, we have to defeat the Obamanation first, because if cannot do that, it won't matter much. Then we can hold McCain's feet to the fire.
How do you eat an elephant?
One bite at a time.
Posted by: Melissa In Texas on September 7, 2008 10:50 AM
Posted by: Digger on September 7, 2008 03:50 PM
NOT voting for McCain is essentially VOTING FOR OBAMA! This is going to br a tight race. I can't stand Juan McCain either, but the reality is it's going to be McCain or Obama. I'll take McCain then browbeat him to death on the amnesty issue.
Posted by: April on September 8, 2008 02:24 AM
Sorry, been there, done that with George Bush. Not going to do it again. That is one of the reasons we are once again being shafted, because they know you will vote for them even if they suck because of the other guy. It's about time people stop this.
Have a little pride.
Posted by: Digger on September 8, 2008 03:06 AM
You missed the part in the speech where she said that McCain is the same in Scranton as he is in San Francisco.
But, he is NOT the same at a LaRaza meeting as at a Heritage Foundation speech...
Posted by: ken pope on September 8, 2008 09:29 AM
I AGREE WITH BOTH DIGGER AND RUTHINESS.JOHN McCAIN IS A LIAR AND IT AMAZES ME THAT HE IS ALL OF A SUDDEN THE MAN OF CHOICE TO BE PRESIDENT TO SOME IDIOTS WHO ARE GOING WACKO OVER A WOMAN. JUST BECAUSE THIS WOMAN WAS MAYOR OF A SMALL TOWN (MAYBERRY) AND GOVENOR OF HER STATE FOR 2 YEARS DOES NOT MAKE HER QUALIFIED TO BE VP OF THE U.S.A.FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO WILL VOTE FOR THE McCAIN PALIN TICKET,WHEN HE START SHOWING HIS TRUE COLORS, THEY WILL BE GETTING EXACTLY WHAT THEY DESERVE JUST LIKE THEY DID BY VOTING FOR BUSH!
Posted by: LadyStClaire on September 11, 2008 12:54 AM
Better McCain than that "Baby Killer Obama"! To Vote for that Left wing, scumbag, is to Hate America..........
Posted by: Jack Ripper on September 16, 2008 10:16 AM