I received an email from a reader who said that she got pregnant by someone that she later found out was an illegal alien. She is now wondering if it's possible for her to force him to pay child support.
I am wondering if you have any information about getting child support from someone whos status is not of legal status.
I recently had a baby by someone, who I found out later, does not have legal status. He is not taking responsibility for the child, and I am having a hard time knowing what to do.
I'm not going to lecture her.
I don't have the answer to this, but I'm guessing that she's out of luck. It's hard enough to get the government to find and deport illegal aliens. Finding one and forcing him to pay child support, I would think, would be 10 times harder to do.
Does anyone out there with experience have an answer to this?
i have a baby by an illegal alien. i was conned by him into having a baby with him because i thought he loved me. all he wanted from me was papers. well he figured out that i was never gonna marry him and he left me for some other dumb girl so now they are married. he wanted to get rights to see my child. but he hasn't given me a cent. so i don't let him see my child. payback.
Posted by: whatevaaaaa on March 2, 2007 03:07 AM
so you want the father of your child to pay to see his child? your a cunt. OH AND YOUR A LIAR TOO CAUSE YOU CANT JUST GET CITIZENSHIP BY BANGING SOME AMERICAN WHORE EVERY ILLEGAL ALIEN KNOWS THAT DUH!
Posted by: AZ on March 13, 2007 05:19 PM
I am going thru this now. You can file on him. Our court date is in July. I was actually married 2 him tho. So we'll see. Oh and just bc i was married 2 him he still is not legal.
Posted by: Jill on June 23, 2008 06:34 PM
I am here too.. My son is a little over a year.. he was a cheater and lier.. he wants to be a part of his sons life.. but he wants his cake and eat it too.. he wants to play wit girls and party but im supposed to be here waiting like a good lil girl.. shit im american i was raised to stand up for myself.. so now I made him leave.. and he aint helpin for nada.. what can i do he threatens to take my son to his country then what.. so for now he can see him and i dont argue, but wait till I get it figured out.. im working two jobs plus got my lil boy alone.. wait.. he'll get his.
Posted by: mary on July 10, 2008 11:11 PM
Yes she can file for child support. I am in the same situation and I filed and receive support most of the time. A non-custodial parent's immigration status has nothing to do with paying child support. Even if they say they don't have a job they can set a minimum amount for them to pay.
Posted by: Syd on September 13, 2008 12:36 AM
since I'm going through this as well let me tell what's happening for me
I filed a case gave them as much information as I could numbers I have and gave them pictures. I don't have an adress for him because be won't give it to me. But I'm still recieving child support and my case worker told me ounce they find him he will be given a court date if he fails to apperar he will be given a warrant but either way this in his name he will be denied if he ever trys to get papers and his chances of ever finding work are slim to none
But he comes and sees me and my son and don't even know I have this on him boy Is he going to be pissed when he finds out
Posted by: Amy on January 12, 2009 01:34 AM
I have a 2 yr old son with an illegal. You can get child support but because of the illegal status its way harder to enforce it since many work for cash under the table. Uhm. And as far as visitation goes.. I am going through hell with that right now. Illegals do have the right to see their child(ren) and from what I've been through so far, the whole flight risk thing is not really even considered. And even if child support is not paid, they still have the legal right to see the child(ren). Is that crazy or what! Illegal Immigrants have LEGAL rights... seems a little bogus to me... I really wish no one would ever have to go through this because it seems that the child(ren) and the citizen parent are the ones who lose out....
Posted by: Morgen on February 11, 2009 09:58 PM
yup the boat float's but they can't swim in it. i'm pregnant and 22 with a immigrant from Guatemala guy he was cool but we have been apart for 5 mo and he just want's to marry me to fix his papers so he can work to make it here to were i am i feel dumb and used cause we been together for a year only and due on may 17 may be this month but i have this feeling that he was once married in his country and has kids on top of that i think he has no feelings no sexual nothing this whole freak'n time but how disgusting i feel and for her (my daughter)im gonna make him regret it all im the plan and his day will come to lady's and he will never see her and i will make sure he never does and she will always remember and he will to when i don't call when i go into labor and may be this week then let's see the man who say's he could have married me along time ago get away with it and that baby freak'n donor that's all they are no body want's them here find away back to your country and we pity you
Posted by: roxanna on April 27, 2009 07:11 PM
I'm in the same situation. We were going to get married but I guess he find out getting papers was not so easy like back then. We broke up. He didn't want to help me with anything so I told him to get away from my daughter, and he did. Wow, how could he give up if he said he loved her so much. There is no day she doesn't ask for him. That makes me feel so angry, so I'm going to do anything to make this "person", a real man...
Posted by: PR03 on May 4, 2009 10:32 PM
Me to i got preagneant with an illigle guy when i was 16 and he was 26 he took advantage of me . we were together for 3 years and he was lazy and didnt want to wash dishes or work hard job to help with my baby and my parents had to do everything for me so i said he couldnt see the her. plus he didnt want the baby he was completely insensitive my entire preagnancy i had to beg him just to touch my belly to feel the baby kicking. now i want child sapport cause i know he's working here and i know where he lives. He didn't want to see the baby after i started dating other guys he wanted bolth or none and i didn't want to merry him cause he always called me fat and made me feel not good enough and looked at nakid skinny little girls on porno websites and then when i lost weight then he wanted me so bad and by then i was like no. when i loved him he didn't give me his all. well anyways my daughter is 4 looks just like him and he hasn't seen her in almost 3 years what a jerk.
Posted by: christie on May 17, 2009 11:40 AM
U.S. citizens if the illegals are working the system you have to work the system to your favor also. if the illegals arent paying the court order child support than take them to court. the judge will eventually get tired of seeing them and start putting them in jail. either they will get tired of going to jail and start paying something or they will continue to goto jail. if they cant pay the child support then they cant get custody of the child also because presumably they dont have money. just take them to court. you dont need a lawyer and he will goto jail. some people get 3 months in jail after a while. you think they wont get tired of that!!! anyways what else can you do? just start taking to court.
Posted by: Chris on July 5, 2009 01:19 AM
I am so pissed right now!I have a 9 year old son for an illegal,well I think he is.I just told my son who his real father is only because his real fathers family kept sneaking ways to tell my son.His real father when I broke it off with him stalked us for years.I cant get police help either.I find out later he is married to his illegal wife and has 7 children.I have moved several times and he still finds me.So I decided to write him and give him a chance to come see his son although my husband raised him.Now his illegal wife and kids are calling saying he's in Mexico and to leave their daddy alone.If you the damn stalking he has done.After reading some of these post I know now what i need to do.I'm reporting him and his family.If he ever ran off with my baby I would go crazy.Thanks for these post and ladies please be careful!!!!
Posted by: Rebecca on August 29, 2009 10:27 PM
listen here ladies most of you're is jus fucked up and will pay for ur fucked up actions. you're will burn in hell. i feel like u don't don't evem care bout those beautiful babiies you're having. anyways i have this bitch who has one beautiful daughter for me and soon to have another one. first kids was a trap second was me begin stuppid payin for my actions, like some of you ladiess would say baking the cake and tryin to have it at the same time. so yah i fucked up and i regret but dats not going to change my past and i'm not going to let slow me down. dis cunt tho i'm talking about is fuck sick i think she had my kids was for money, maybe papers 2 threatening with child support, calls me one day before i get payed like she's work for my money. i doubt all the money is spent on my baby and she claims her lazy ass work, yah sure u work alrite ( SITTIN ON YOU'RE FUCKING ASS BITCH!!!!) i hate her i really wish i can make one wish , wish i neva meet this bitch. i love my baby but me and that gold digger will neva get along. don't get me wrong i wish the best for her but she really needs to work on gettin a cat scan or diagnose cause i'm 400% she's diagnose with bipola. love you ladies and have a nice day or nite. stay out of trouble
Posted by: survivorreal on September 21, 2009 09:40 PM
I am the wife of a illegal. He has been the most wonderful husband. He did not marry me for his papers as it is a well known fact you cannot get your papers just because you get married. He had a little girl from a old girlfriend. He has always paid his support and he does anything she asks because she is always blackmailing him with having him deported. She uses that little girl against him like I have never seen before. It is so sad. The worst thing about it is the little girl doesn't even live with her. She lives with other family members. She collects the money always complaining it isn't enough. She lets him see her on her terms only. This little girl is going to grow up and realize what's been done to her father and her mother will be the one to pay the price for these games in the end. Anyway the point I am trying to make is that when you get with a man who doesn't have his papers you are well aware of the fact he is illegal. You as a woman are making a choice to proceed in a relationship with him. You are responsible for your choices. Just because it doesn't work out doesn't give you all the power to run over top of them. Look at your child they are not all American. They will grow up and ask questions. If he is a looser then so be it but if its you just wanting your way in everything because U have the upper hand you will be the one who has to answer to your child and God someday.
Posted by: Wife of Illigal on October 9, 2009 02:32 PM
My sister is having this exact problem. I think the system needs to stop blaming the women and work on making ALL fathers pay their child support, citizens or no. The attitude at the child support office seems to be, "Well, you shoulda thunk of that before you spread your legs for an illegal." Sound familiar? Indeed, if you only replace the word "illegal" with "man."
I admit that it is difficult to track a man down when he lives off the grid, as many illegal immigrants do. They don't have valid Social Security numbers, they use multiple identities, and they often work "under the table" to avoid detection and taxation. However, the sad fact is that most of the women who've been wronged know where to find these men, but pointing them out does no good. The authorities just shrug and say, "What do you want us to do about it?"
Of course, we wouldn't be having this problem at all if we started ENFORCING our border laws to begin with. This is what comes of looking the other way and allowing an entire subculture to live outside the law. Is it any wonder that they have no respect for our values and system?
Posted by: Damiana on October 17, 2009 12:53 AM
The United States has a Federal New Hire law that all employers have to report the hiring of their new employers to Health and Family Services. Each state has to do this. Unfortunately when the illegal alien has filed out the W4 for withholding taxes, the illegal alien uses a made up, stolen or SSN bought on the streets. The employer has to send the W4 information to Health and Family Services. The SSA will validate the income information only if the SSN really matches the person's name and SSN. If not the SSA will not send notices of invalid matches. There is the NDNH that keeps a national data base of new hires but not unverified individuals using someone else's SSN. I guess if the American citizen caught on that if they do not have to give the employer a SSN to be hired, and only have to put any SSN on a W4 for withholding, they could receive a W2 with their real name and a made up or purchased SSN on it. The American citizen could then use the W2 to open a checking and savings, or obtain credit. This would allow them to develop "synthetic" credit reports. It would be important to note that one would have to make sure they had a change of address, other than the one they original had with their "real" SSN. If you work with a SSN that is not yours, and don't file income taxes, I wonder if the IRS will come after you? I wonder if you work with a SSN not yours, and apply for an ITIN number to file income tax returns if you could avoid child support being taken from your income tax refunds??? I wonder if you work two jobs and use two different SSN numbers if you could apply for an ITIN from the IRS and file income tax returns twice?? This of course would be really interesting if you were an illegal alien, with a legal spouse and had 6 children born here in the United States, I guess you could claim the additional child credits. I guess the way the IRS laws currently are, you could work with s different SSN for different employers for many years. Then when you want to retire or become disabled, just go to your SSA office and use Form SS-5 to report all the years of errors. Since the IRS and SSA make claim that they cannot inform the real citizens that someone is working with their SSN numbers under the U.S.Privacy Laws and Tax Code 6103. The DOJ we were told does not investigate illegal aliens working with our SSN, applying for ITINS, and attaching a W2 with a no-name match SSN to it. I wonder if the AMERICAN citizen could be charged under federal law of representing themselves as an illegal alien, or resident alien with the IRS???? I am not recommending that any taxpayer avoid paying or filing income taxes, I am just saying that it appears the IRS and especially Congress just doesn't want to stop the employment of illegal aliens and stop them from using our SSN numbers. So I guess the illegal alien is going to be hard to collect child support from. UMMM, all the rights and privileges and they don't have to follow our laws. THINK ABOUT IT...
Posted by: Debra Guenterberg on November 1, 2009 05:32 PM
I had my son at 15 from an undocumented fellow and now my son is 16 years old and I have not received one check from Child Support (even after it went through the courts) nor from him (where ever he is), nor do I ever want one. First of all how, he does not have a SS#, how will ANYONE know who he is here in the states other then his name, let alone be able to work under their real names and pay childsupport. REMEMBER LADIES, In order to pay child support it has to come out of the jobs that they hold by filing it with the states under there ss#, NOW IF HE DON'T HAVE ONE(ss#), what can he file, NOTHING. In the second place, that would mean he would be liable to some sort of rights, if he would pay. So for me I'm better off with out his money, I work for my child and want the best for them, with or without a man. I keep my head held high and show my son that ----III love him and that I am his Mother and Father...But if one day he would ever pay I think i'm at around $90,000 owed last time i called and checked...SO your answer to your ? IS YOU CAN FILE AND GO THROUGH THE COURTS SET HIM UP FOR CHILD SUPPORT BUT IF HE IS JUST A JOHN DOE NAME WITHOUT A SS#, HE WILL BE UNABLE TO FIND. UR OUT OF LUCK...THAT LIFE, UNLESS THE ALLEGED FATHER MAKES CASH PAYMENTS TO CS BUT BUT THATS RARLEY HAPPENS.
Posted by: Ana on November 11, 2009 12:41 PM
I find it funny that people like to judge but have no idea what they are really talking about. First of all, if an illegal is working a steady job that did not look at anything other than his driver's license when he was hired, how would someone dating him know he was illegal? The state I live in, NC, is one who does not check immigration status when renewing driver's licenses (it is one of about 8 states in the US that does not) so when an illegal goes to renew a license they obtained when they had a temporary green card, they can get it renewed with no problem. Then, the illegal can seek and obtain work pretty much anywhere, as that is usually all that is requested for ID when someone applies for a job. The person I know (my baby's father) who did this used a NC address to renew his NC license, and can fly back to California where he lives and seek a job without any problems. California usually checks when they renew, so ofcourse, they assume other states do too. Also, aside from names that may sound foreign, many "illegals" are well educated (the one I knew went to boarding school in London) and well spoken, and did not even have an African accent. In America, it is not uncommon to have non-traditional names, as our families come from all over.
Also, to say that a person cannot get custody of a child because they are claiming not to have money to pay support is also not true. First of all, if there was no custody settlement or arrangements at the time a support order is established, or any other time for that matter, in the majority of states, no parent has ANY more right to the child than the other - REGARDLESS of who financially supports the child and who the child lives with. Furthermore, either parent can pick the child up from home, school, or anywhere else - take them out of the country with them, and it will not be considered kidnapping, as both parents have equal rights to the child until some type of legal terms have been agreed upon.(which costs an arm and a leg, by the way- which...if most of us had 2500.00 to throw around on a lawyer, we would not be concerned about child support to begin with)
Also, the person who said to "take him to court" over and over again....most support orders cannot be adjusted or heard again for 3 years, in which case you can ask for adjustments to the amount for whatever reason. A fail to pay order can only be brought on the person by the state, and they try their best to avoid throwing anyone in jail because they will never get support that way, the most they do is freeze any bank accounts the person may be dumb enough to have in their names, and this is only after 12 months has gone by with NO payment. If the person pays ANYTHING, like 25.00 for example, before the 13th month, they avoid the freeze on the bank account. Then, the 12 month allowance starts over. Basically, if the one paying (or not paying) support figures out the system, they can get by with paying 25.00 every 13 months and avoid any consequences.
Also, anyone who receives any type of state or federal assistance (daycare assistance, reduced lunches, medicaid, work first, food stamps, etc) has to wait until the STATE is reimbursed before they benefit from any support that is paid or taken from taxes filed, so sometimes you will not see anything from a payment that was supposedly made.
Now, my child's father has requested to waive his support order because he claims he cannot find work (even though he maintained steady work prior to my child being born, and was illegal then also) and they just may allow him to....we have not really received anything since he was born anyway. He refuses to sign a waiver for any rights to his child, probably as an attempt to manipulate me, which would drop his obligations financially and otherwise. I can count on one hand how many times he has visited my 5 year old son, he doesn't even know him.BUT, he could show up at my son's daycare one day, grab my son, and take off to London without telling me and I wouldn't be able to do a darn thing about it.
It's a crazy situation, and to any one of you who are going through it, my heart goes out to you all and I wish you the best of luck.
Posted by: Tiffany on December 1, 2009 03:33 PM
Yes you can file for childsupport, but this does not neccesary mean they will pay. I have a child with an illegal, and because we do not live together and I receive some government assistance, due to not making enough money working and being a fulltime student, the system made me work with child support, he pays to stay out of trouble.
Posted by: proud momma on December 8, 2009 01:35 PM
I am in the same situation as all the others. It doesn't get any easier either, only more complicated. My illegal and I were on and off for the past 9 1/2 years. We really did love each other at one time. He decided to see someone else, well apparently for the entire time we've been together.
It just proves they can lead a double life and get away with it. He currently does not pay support but many say the reason is because I will not let him see the kids. That is just stupid. Well, we both have restraining orders against each other. But he is really the crazy one. He abused me the entire time, just over the aummer he decided since I didn't want to follow him home from the restaurant he would hit my truck and cause almost $5000.00 of damage to it.
He even told my children to keep this other girl a secret and that she would be their new "MOMMY". I did not find out right away. But when I did, I was mad. He only played mind games with me and it was all lies.
That is all these men do from Mexico. They find some helpless girl who will pitty them and get them pregnant.Then decide to abuse them every way possible and end up not taking care of their responsibilties.
But this illegal mexican did work two jobs basically everyday. No wonder why he managed to have an affair. And the money, well, he would say "that's my money. not your money." He called me lazy and I am a bad mother while I was left home with the children while he partied all night with other girls.
This new girl he plans on marrying just to get his green card. Immigration does not care, the police will not do anything about it. It is so obvious illegals get away with everything. They have fake social security cards, IDs, birth certificates. It is no wonder immigration is never able to find them.
For the longest time he didn't want child support to come after his ass because immigration might get him.
I called the child support office, gave info where he works, the fake social security # he uses, even his bank account number. As of this day, he owes me $28,000 and that is just for one kid. He has paid to date $77.00.
I did one better to by turning him in for child neglect and abuse. It wasn't a lie either. He was smoking pot around my children, snorting cocaine, and not to mention this black powdery substance my son found. And he says he loves his kids so much. LIES. He is just a selfish person. He went all the way to call his own children "pieces of shit" and "trash" and that I made them that way because I have a crappy job. Nice father. He didn't even tell his wife to be that he has another child. She claims she know him so well and she's known him for 10 years. She doesn't know crap.
I am sure he is furious about being turned in. We have custody court and he actually thinks he has rights and can get my children when he is a criminal, on drugs, has a violent temper, and no green card.
My children and I attend counseling for everything he has done. I sure hope my children do not turn out like him. A dead beat dad. I hope I do get my child support, but that is a toss up. He'll either pay to stay out of trouble or just take off because he is a coward.
Men are retarded and think they are hurting the women when the entire time they are hurting themselves and their children. But in the end, children don't need to deal with anymore bad behavior from their fathers.
Posted by: Chloe on December 14, 2009 09:23 PM
so im a illigal and a father...i want to be part of my childrens life but my ex wont let...thats the only reason im not sending her money...im not like the rest I work and she knows that...she knows how much i make and how much i spend...its only been 2 1/2 months since she left me and took my kids 700 miles away but since then i have alredy payed 1000 in legal fees and another 1200 to get my car that she took from me....so ladies your not the only one that have to go thru all the shinanigans....I love my kids and dont know what kind of memories im missing out on
Posted by: im not that one on January 3, 2010 10:08 PM
Hi I am in the same situation. My boyfriend is from POland and he told me he had a visa for 15 years and that he still wanted to get married to me and have our baby. The ass lied i am pretty sure I looked through his apt and did not find any legal documentation. I think he just tricked me so he could become legal it is too late for me to have an abortion and i am scared that this ass will get away with this ....Is there any kind of lawyer that a women can see .I know i am pretty screwed and will not get anything out of him but if he could just go to jail just so he knows he messed with the wrong bitch.....
Posted by: lisa on January 28, 2010 12:49 PM
Ladies I am in the same situation and at times I get really angry. there is little financial help. sometimes he calls and speaks to his daughter and that makes her so happy. On top of me being the provider, he is very disrespectful to me. We sometimes have to live by our choices and learn from our mistakes. Let us embrace our children, do what is in their best interest and put our personal feelings aside. Ladies! introduce your children to God, He is our heavenly father, provider and keeper and his grace is sufficient! Educate yourself and gain your independence so that you can care for your child/children. forgive these men and be at peace with yourselves. allow them to see their children as long as it is safe to do so. It is our children who suffers in the end. I had to swallow my pride and take the short end of the stick to see my daughter happy. I love each and every on of you and wish your situation was different. continue to trust God and seek him in every area of your life. Revenge is mine said the lord. On that note I wish you much success. Remember, to be educated is to have power! Go back to shcool and get your degrees, there is no limitations. At the end you will feel good about your accomplishments."Live on purpose"
Posted by: Shamoya faith on March 2, 2010 08:05 AM