/ September 9, 2005 10:14 AM
Democrat Gil Cedillo has once again pushed this bill. I've lost count of how many times he's put it up. About 70% of California voters are against illegal alien drivers licenses, but it keeps being brought up by Gil Cedillo, open borders proponents and those who wish to legitimize those here illegally. Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger's deputy chief of staff has stated
that the Governor will once again veto the bill. He did so in September 2004
and stated in February 2005
that he would do so again.
Why do the voters stand for their representatives continually undermining their choice? Vote them out already!
San Diego Union-Tribune
... the Assembly last night passed the legislation by a 42-34 vote. It now goes to the Senate for a final vote.
Sen. Gil Cedillo, the Los Angeles Democrat carrying the bill, said the federal law settled the annual dispute.
Referring to President Johnson's signature on the Voting Rights Act and former Alabama Gov. George Wallace's rejection of school integration, Cedillo said: "The governor has a choice. He can either be an LBJ or a George Wallace."
Republicans rejected the comparison.
"We are a society based on laws," said Assemblyman Mark Wyland, R-Del Mar. "The law has meaning. It undermines our government when we reward breaking the law."
The Senate also passed the bill, but by a thin margin.
The state Senate today passed the measure and sent it to Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger, despite signals that the Republican governor would veto it. With limited debate, the Senate this afternoon approved the bill on a 21-15 vote, the bare minimum needed for passage in the upper house.
Andy Ramirez, founder of the citizen group Friends of the Border Patrol, said the bill is "an absolute sham."
He said he lobbied the governor's staff to urge a veto.
The driver's licenses "are de facto ID cards," Ramirez said, and the Legislature "is trying to legitimize them being here. If you give them a driver's license, you are legitimizing them and approving of what they have done, which was to break the laws of our nation."
Lonewacko has more on the way those in favor of the bill are hiding their true intentions.
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Posted by Digger on September 9, 2005 10:14 AM (Permalink)
Gil Cedillo's obsession with an alternative Driver's License is misguided, as is California's incorrect understanding of DMV regulations and laws passed which result in the suspension of drivers licenses and impound of vehicles. A careful reading of the DMV handbook, and even more important, the personal experiences of myself and thousands of other California drivers, reveals that the vast majority of Californians whose licenses are suspended and whose vehicles are impounded when they drive on a suspended license, are NOT illegal aliens. Even more disturbing is the fact that most suspensions/impounds are not even related to the license holders activities while on the road.
Did you know that ANY FTP (Failure to Pay) or FTA (Failure to Appear) will result in suspension of your driving "privilege"? Did you know that the FTP/FTA does NOT have to be related to traffic or driving but can because of fines and/or infractions for ANYTHING!!! For example, if a child is truant, the parent can be ordered to court and fined. If the parent doesnt appear and/or pay the fine, then his or her license is suspended and any vehicle that he/she is driving can be immediately impounded.
Or perhaps it is a vandalism charge, or a fishing license violation...or maybe failure to pay child support...or even a library card fine! It could even be failure to pay the fees for ANOTHER license...such as a beautician or contractor.
But the most frequent is for "financial responsibility". For instance, if another driver hits you from the rear, while you are at a dead stop in traffic on the freeway and you dont have liability insurance, then YOU are given a ticket for failure to show proof of insurance. By the way, having liability insurance does NOT help you collect your damages from the party who injured/damaged you. Then YOUR license is suspended, unless you pay a $1,400 fine and you are also precluded from suing the party who hit you and/or collecting any damages....even if you are not at fault.
If you dont pay the $1,400 fine...your license is suspended and then if you drive, your car is impounded.
These laws were passed by promoting the FEAR of illegal immigrants driving without licenses and/or insurance. However, the truth of the matter is that the vast majority of Californians impacted by these laws are American citizens, who have or had valid drivers licenses and may even have insurance. These laws are being used to collect millions of dollars in the State of California from hardworking American citizens who have the unfortunate situation of being POOR!
Mr. Cedillo would accomplish more by looking at the REAL intent of this legislation...promoted and supported by the Insurance Industry.
Posted by: Eileen on October 7, 2005 05:50 AM
Absolutely insane, most illegal aliens can't even read the road signs and it will just encourage more illegal's to sneak in the country.
The majority of our road signs are not international. Additionally many/most illegal's have never even driven a vehicle in their own countries. Being able to read the following non international signs is required to have a drivers license.
Do Not Enter
Right Lane Closed Ahead
Left Lane Ends
Right Turn Only
Be Prepared To Stop
Slow Watch For Pedestrians
Do Not Enter
Two Way Traffic Ahead
No Turn On Red
School Zone Speed Limit 20 MPH Between 7am – 9am and 2pm – 4pm
No Parking School Days
School Bus Stop Ahead
Posted by: Tina on September 5, 2008 09:02 AM
I say to Mr. Schwartznegger, PASS THE BILL! You are enjoying all the things our nation has to offer and you are not a natural born US citizen. If you would pass thebill so illegals can get their licenses, the government and everyone else would benefit. The licese bureau would be making more money, the insurance companies would be making money, and the automobile industry would be selling more cars and trucks! How many Americans are arrested for DUI every year and let go to repeat offend? How many Americans have drank and driven a car only to be involved in an accident that could be deadly? They are given a slap on the hands and let go. give the aleins a break. They are here and maybe they would like to live a life free from fear and obey the laws if given a chance. they only want to work and make a living like everyone else. They want their children, wives and husbands to have food on the table and a better life. give them a chance. PASS THE BILL, FOR GOD'S SAKE and QUIT JACKING AROUND.
Posted by: Rebecca Graham on November 17, 2008 09:27 AM
I HOPE THE GOVERNOR TERMINATES THIS BILL (SB60).ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS FROM ANY COUNTRY DESERVE TO BE DEPORTED. WHAT ABOUT THEIR FAMILIES? THEY SHOULD HAVE CONSIDERED THAT BEFORE THEY CAME HERE. I HAVE NO SYMPATHY FOR THEM. IF I COMMITED A CRIME, I GO TO JAIL AND AM SEPERATED FROM MY FAMILY. WHOSE FAULT IS THAT?
CEDILLO SHOULD BE INVESTIGATED TO DETERMINE WETHER HE IS A AGENT (LOBBYIST) FOR MEXICO. ALL THAT HE DOES BENEFITS ILLEGALS FROM SOUTH OF OUR BORDER. IF MY SENATOR, RODERICK WRIGHT, VOTED IN FAVOR OF THIS INSANE BILL, I WILL VOTE FOR ANYONE RUNNING AGAINST HIM IN THE NEXT ELECTION, REGARDLESS OF POLITICAL PARTY.
Posted by: MICHAEL CARTER on June 2, 2009 05:37 PM
california is broke right??
think about it...
giving us drivers licenses = us purchasing more cars, insurance, accessories, GAS, etc...
that = more money for the state...
stop being stupid.. and racist...
and yeah i said US.. because i am illegal...
i was brought here when i was 1 month old by my parents and i lived here ever since... and i am going NOWHERE... and you cant do anything about it...
i still drive...lol.. i dont care...
i have to drive to go to school..
pursuing my education like a regular "american"
i probably drive better than most of you here....
Posted by: Hahalames on June 8, 2009 01:34 AM
I, personally, would welcome this bill to become a law. Come on, illegals are driving anyway. Who benefits from not giving them license? I had three accidents, and I had to use my uninsured motorist and collision coverage in all of them... That's not right. The only thing they should amend that California ID card should be available for citizens and legal immigrants only, therefore, the distinguisment between legals and illegals would remain. Further benefit, with CA driver license, the government would know the illegals name, address, etc, therefore, no more excape from unpaid hospital bills or other debts, easy to locate them in case of vehicle accidents, they can open bank accounts to raise funds at banks, so the banks could reduce their damages caused by the credit crisis, illegals could purchase phones, etc. Honestly, I cannot really see any negative effects... I believe, even the insurance prices would go down as the risk of uninsured drivers could be almost eliminated. The only thing, CA DL shouldn't be the "ultimate" ID to prove legality in the future, and that's all.
Posted by: sue on June 10, 2009 10:39 PM
Eleen, comment #1, 4th paragraph: that's not true. Proposition 213 only says that if you are involved in a vehicle v. vehicle accident and the vehicle you was driving (or the driver of the vehicle) does not have valid liability insurance at the time of the accident, then he/she is not entitled to pain and suffering damages. He/she is still entitled to special damages, such as medical bills, property damage, towing charges, etc.
Posted by: sue on June 10, 2009 10:48 PM
TO Michael carter: STFU, before you get your head kicked in.
Posted by: rweaffewef on August 31, 2010 07:30 PM
It is quite ridiculous. Americans are afraid of EVERYTHING, especially in this recession. Blame the Mexicans, blame the politicians, blame the French ;) ...get over it already. The economy would collapse without illegals. I say let 'em stay, pay a fine for staying and help us get out of this financial rut that's going to last at least another decade - if it ends at all!
Posted by: IamRight on October 20, 2010 10:22 PM
fuck you fucking wetbacks go back where you came from, all you fucking beaners do is take our jobs send money to mexico, thats why our country is how it is. fuck you fucking wetback motherfucken mexicans.!
Posted by: jo jo on January 26, 2011 11:24 PM