/ February 17, 2011 08:05 PM
It has taken me quite awhile to figure out why there is so much vitriol hurled at Congressman Ron Paul
from those on the right, Republicans and those who call themselves conservatives. I am not one of those die hard Ron Paul supporters, but I am also not one of those hate filled faux conservatives who vilify him as the second coming of Satan. His supporters are fanatical and sometimes make him look like a kook, along with themselves, and take the other tack of making him out to be the second coming - like Obama supporters.
For the most part the hatred against Ron Paul couldn't be due to his stances on the issues - most of them are constitutionalist in nature and fall well within the mainstream of conservative viewpoints. For instance his bill to audit the Federal Reserve. He also stands for ending foreign aid, another conservative platform. However, this is where he runs into problems.
There is a concerted effort in the Republican party, and among some conservatives, to support Israel at all costs. They go so far as even supporting Israel over the United States of America and to the ultimate detriment of our country. In other words it's Israel first. The same people calling for an end to foreign aid want to make exceptions. This is the same argument liberals use. Some liberals are probably willing to end foreign aid to some countries, as long as you don't end aid to countries they prefer (maybe some African country for instance). Paul doesn't take this stance and that is why he is now being branded as an anti-semite. Amazingly those who are on the right are using the same tactics of those on the left. When it comes to immigration, you can't simply want laws to be enforced for the good of our country - oh no! - you must be a racist and hater. Now people on the right are using this against Ron Paul.
As with anything, making exceptions when it comes to policy making leads down the road to ruin. At that point it comes down to who is making the exceptions. Let us take the hated Health Care Reform bill. How much outrage is there for all of those who are receiving waivers? Who made those decisions? The right would say that Obama is giving his friends and supporters special treatment. It is a policy decisions with caveats and as with all decisions as such, who gets the caveat is decided by those who are in power at the time. The reality is that laws and decisions and policy should be put in place as if your worst enemy would end up in power the next time around. Passing a law and then laughing all the way to the bank because you can now crack down on your opposition, will soon come back to haunt you when your opponent ends up in power and they then use it against you.
I know all of the arguments for supporting Israel. I've heard them all. I have also heard the arguments from those who oppose all foreign aid. Those out there who are anti-Paul will be the first to pull out the founding fathers. Well, pull some out and take a look, most of them argued that we stay out of interference in foreign affairs and simply maintain friendly relations and trade. That of course has not happened throughout our country's history and now the only reason people deal with us is because we are bribing them, propping them up with foreign welfare payments. As soon as we stop bribing them, their true feelings will be known, even more than they are already outspoken against us while we pour billions into them year after year.
Anyone who would dub Ron Paul an anti-semite over his stance that foreign aid should be halted to all countries is a disgrace to themselves. It's okay to disagree with him, but the hatred coming from the right against him is turning those like me even more against the Republican machine. If you put Israel - or any country for that matter - before the United States I ask you to move to that country and relieve us of your anti-American and unpatriotic stance. If those countries are so amazing, get on a plane and move your stuff there, I'm sure they'd welcome you.
Idiots like David Horowitz, who would actually entitle a headline as "Ron Paul Is A Vicious Anti-Semite and Anti-American and Conservatives Need To Wash Their Hands of Him", should be ridiculed and removed from your reading list as someone who is not serious. He falls in line with the playground tactics those of La Raza and the Southern Poverty Law Center use. Here's why Horowitz calls Ron Paul a "vicious anti-semite".
Representative Ron Paul (R-TX) has just introduced an amendment to end all U.S. aid to Israel. The amendment could be voted on before the day is over. I need your help right now to stop this ill-conceived proposal!
Therefore Ron Paul must be a "vicious anti-semite" who wants to exterminate all the Jews. What a vile, filthy and outright lie of a thing to say. David Horowitz is a disgusting man having used this tactic and I ask you to make note of him and those of his ilk, so that the next idiotic thing he/they spew you are sure to throw it out with the trash where it belongs. You can disagree with someone's reasoning, maybe you like foreign aid, but the outright stamping of someone with the brand of "Jew hater" over a general stance for all is just a lie and the sign of a mind with no ability to reason or use critical thinking. It is the sign of laziness. And just think this guy gets paid to write this tripe and some people actually read it! The worst part is he claims to be on the right, which paints anyone right-of-center as a lunatic like himself. Thanks Horowitz, now go join the liberals where you belong with your race card rants when you have no argument.
Ending foreign aid means ending foreign aid you can't pick and choose. You can't have favorites - for when the next person ends up in power his favorite will surely not be your own.
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Posted by Digger on February 17, 2011 08:05 PM (Permalink)
While you may disagree with Horowitz on this issue, he is not an idiot and someone I for one, have a lot of respect for. Fact is that Ron Paul didn't call for an end to all foreign aid in his bill, he just targeted Israel. He didn't even include the billions we give to the PLO!!! I don't know if Paul is an anti-semite, but he definitely has a problem with Israel and that aligns him with Obama, not most conservatives. Ron Paul, on the other hand, has called for ending the IRS and as much as that sounds good, it leaves no way for our country to operate. That is not conservatism, it is lunacy.
Posted by: Larry Steinberg on February 18, 2011 01:52 PM
Umm...the PLO has been branded a terrorist organization so they don't get any funding from the US gov't. The amendment was to end all foreign aid to Egypt, Jordan, Israel and Pakistan.
This is a great amendment.
Posted by: lukeNC on February 19, 2011 07:37 AM
If we don't elect a true conservative constitutional president in 2012 we will be doomed forever. The only politician that is honest and true to his convictions is Ron Paul. We need to take the hard steps in order to bring our country back from certain ruin and Ron Paul is the ONLY politician with the courage and intelligence to make it happen.
Posted by: Karen Bracken on February 19, 2011 08:02 AM
play dumb re 9/11
no questions re 9/11
What you have done will be the saving of Israel
You'll be remembered forever for this
Not only that you've been paid for your efforts
Pretty good wages for one little kiss
Posted by: NadePaulKuciGravMcKi on February 19, 2011 11:35 AM
Sorry but Paul's amendment is transparently anti-Israel. That doesn't mean necessarily he's is personally antisemitic, but it means he is cynically using an ostensible "even" cut to all the middle east in order to weaken Israel.
You really ought to examine the fall of South Vietnam that was directly caused by Congress to see the tactic.
Paul's "followers" are too entangled with the home-grown White supremacists movement. I find them creepy. Ron Paul may offer some good fiscal advice on the House floor, but he has no business getting anywhere near a run for the White House.
Posted by: Darleen Click on February 20, 2011 11:17 AM
Cry Baby Boehner & Neo-Con Cantor(Jew) are phony Conservatives and bow down to the Isreal gangsters.
Ron Paul - TRUE Conservative puts US first ahead of Isreal as it should be and will "get the job done."
Hey, Digger, great article - looks like you've been reading "David Duke" and you finally "get it."
Good job - keep it comin'!
Posted by: Infidel on February 20, 2011 02:47 PM
Ron Paul represents the morality of the old American West (meaning the hills of Appalachia ca colonial times). The live and let live mentality was in stark contrast to the deliberate piety of the New England Puritans and Pennsylvania Quakers/Mennonites. Those two groups believed the State to be an extension of the church. It is only natural the state ought to compel good behavior. The only problem is when the state became the tool of non-Purtians or non-Quakers.
Two other things with Libertarians: the druggies are just too much to ask a paleocon to accept. Tolerate? Sure, why not. Accept? Not going to happen. Finally, Libertarianism is a weakling's ideology. It is defensive, retreating, not-muscular. Really does remind me of the stereotypical Mountain Men -- who lived by the thousands in the hills of the Paul family's Western Pennsylvania homeland.
Posted by: Josey Montana on February 21, 2011 06:53 PM
:IT IS NOT THAT HE IS-HATED-IT IS THAT HIS VEIWS GO A LITTLE TO FAR...UNTIL THEY ARE ALMOST BACK AROUND TO THE OTHER SIDE: I TRUST THAT MAKES SOME SENSE!?!:HIS -VIEWS - GO PAST US UNTIL THEY ARE -ALMOST-LIBERAL-NOT QUITE...BUT TOO CLOSE:
:WHEN THE-RULE-OF LAW(S) THAT GOVERN-LIKE GLUE-A COUNTRY-WHEN THEY -DIE - THE HEART OF THE PEOPLE-AS IT SEEMS SO-& IN THE HEARTS AND MINDS OF -OUR-SO CALLED"LEADERS"; THE COUNTRY DIES ASWHILE::THE DAY MAY COME-& MAY BE HERE...WHEN THE CONCEPT OF- FREEDOM-WILL NEED TO BE EXPLAINED TO OUR GRAND-KIDS::THE SOFT-TYRANNY-WE ARE NOW LIVEING UNDER--UNDER, OBAMA, IT MAY VERY QUICKLY TURN INTO A-DICTATORSHIP: PARTYING -DOWN; MOTOWN-AS -OUR-COUNTRY BURNS:
Posted by: RALPH E. PARKS on February 28, 2011 05:25 PM
YAWN.........This is an old and tired accusation -- that critics of Israeli policy are anti-Israel.
Israeli citizens get more U.S. Government aid per-capita than do U.S. citizens. And what do we get for our money? SQUAT; diddly squat.
When Americans ask Israelis to stop building illegal settlements, they thumb their noses at us. They'll accept our money but not our advice.
In the meantime, we fight wars, sacrifice our children, and empty the treasury -- all to protect Israel.
Posted by: think again on March 5, 2011 10:32 AM
I'm a hardcore conservative, and I don't hate Ron Paul. He seems to be a hell of a nice guy, actually.
Just because you find his opinions exasperating, that isn't any reason to dislike him.
Too many of the people operating these blogs are haters. I suspect that they are sneaky, Democrat subversives, deceitfully pretending to be conservatives, a suspicion that is being shared by an increasing number of people who recognize that the term, Conservative Jew (or Jewish Conservative), is an oxymoron meant to deceive.
Posted by: Brian on March 19, 2011 09:46 PM
Ron Paul is simply TOO NICE to be a Jew-hater, as Horowitz suggests. He's just trying to make Congress and the Prez "shape up" and stop squandering our future for the sake of a bunch of nonessential "projects" and "philosophies." His idea to "out" the FED is well-received by most Americans, and they can't start soon enough. WHY should some mysterious hidden BANKERS be running & ruining our beloved America?
Posted by: Just Me on March 30, 2011 05:37 AM
His idea to "out" the FED is well-received by most Americans, and they can't start soon enough. WHY should some mysterious hidden BANKERS be running & ruining our beloved America?
Posted by: RIGHT ON on May 21, 2011 12:49 AM
Ron Paul is 100% right and so is this well written article.
Hundreds of billions of dollars that are being forcibly taken from you to pay off foreign governments. This is NOT what the founders of America intended.
Here are the numbers here are the facts:
Ron Pauls Position is Simple If YOU want to give to Africa or Israel TAKE OUT YOUR CHECKBOOK AND PAY WITH YOUR PERSONAL MONEY....just don't ask me to pay for causes I don't believe in.
If you want to Defend Israel or Somalia or Any Foreign Country you believe in GET ON A PLANE AND GO FIGHT....but you don't have the right to put my son or daughter into harms way to fight for foreign interests.
Once you give someone the power to make decisions over your life and property its just a matter of time before they do something you don't agree with but by then its too late because you are now no longer Free.
We are the silent majority, don't believe that Ron Paul is not electable as he is the only one who can win in the general election and win over a majority of the 53% of disenfranchised Americans who put Obama into office.
Ron Paul 2012
Posted by: Liberty Lover on September 22, 2011 05:23 AM
if the people elect him they kill him instantly ... we the poor middle class must unite and defend our rights defend people like Ron paul. everyone of us is a ron paul the problem is we are so dependent from the system we cant get out of it all together. we have to go and work for the police force or the undercover or the security forces or the army and kill the poor innocent class when they try to protest or make a revolution. if you think or try not to work for a week you will get hungry and change nothing. together we stand divided we fall.. if the middle and the poor class all together stop serving the super rich class for 10 days with no exceptions everybody then and only then you see how all these problems may raise to the surface and the foreign policy stuff. we are confronting a much bigger problem which is the monetary slavery globally.
Posted by: Vahakn on January 19, 2012 03:22 AM
One of Ron Paul's greatest influences is Murray Rothbard. A Jew
Posted by: Chuck Reichmuth on March 16, 2012 12:21 AM
Great analysis! Yeah, the Jew hates him for sure, which is why all the Neocons hate him. Guys like Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity put Israel first. But Ron Paul puts America first, hence the Jew despises him.
Posted by: Joe Bob on September 22, 2012 10:13 PM
I have several problems with both Ron Paul and also Ron Paul's supporters [well, certainly some of them].
1) Some of the young and stupid ones support Ron Paul for only one thing: They have invented for themselve what some Conservatives in talk radio call "Unicorn Ron" which is not a slap at the real Ron Paul, but these fools cannot tell the difference and ascribe the own personal and quite ignorant spin to what they PERCEIVE is Ron Paul. By and large this one thing is LEGALIZATION of drugs. WRONG! Ron Paul is against federal enforcement which I as a Constitutionalist fully support. States can and will enforce anti-drug laws; move to a different one if you chose. But that is not an endorsement of Ron Paul the "spiritual head of NORML" in any way. Ask them to speak to any other issue and all they do is giggle.
2) Ron Paul personally comes across as pixelated like a character portrayal of Martin Short, the comedian. Did anyone here see the movie Brune? Paul is an embarrassment to have been in that movie, especially since it is certain he could have disapproved after the fact. Presidential candidates don't make themselves laughing stocks in movies.
3) Ron Paul supporters in some cases actually are anti-Semites. That doesn't make RP one, but these "supporters" love every chance to encourage this.
The Jewish people are responsible for a whole lot of good and bad, just like every other group. Many US-based jewish liberals are just as anti-semetic as Muslims in certain ways. It's a valid criticism that he is associated with "skinheads" and the like. A SAVVY politician would go out of his way to disown them; he does not.
4) You have to acknowledge there is a special place in the world for Israel for a reason skirted here by all: There is a world-wide conspiracy of Islamofacism and Progressivism, each perceiving the other as what Lenin called "useful idiots" and when they take over the entire world, each will try to kill the other, but for now it's an alliance made in hell.
Since enemies of the US and much of our treacherous and treasonous present government all hate both US and Israel, it is imperative we support Israel on that basis alone.
This is war. Foreign aid oversimplified down to just a bill to not support Israel is misguided. Yes, we need to get out of the handouts to every 3rd-rate hater of the US we foolishly give aid to. To that extent I totally agree with Ron Paul, but the stategic aspect beyond that means what we should be doing is having military bases in Israel; we should demand it of them if they don't offer; I suspect they would welcome it.
Hating Israel is a tactic of the left and the ignorant who are not really on the right, they are just ignoramuses who understand little of this among other things they are profoundly ignorant of.
Attacking various people here merely because they are Jews is the precise definition of anti-Semitism. If you practice it, you are as far as I am concerned an ally of the Progressive movement. That makes you either a closet leftist or an ignorant one. And this is why many self-proclaimed Libertarians are in fact nearly as liberal as the most hard-core Obama lover and no friend of either Israel or anything the US stands for.
Posted by: Charles Lasner on May 12, 2013 03:43 AM
A lot of so-called "conservatives" and GOP hacks actually used the non-conservative and vile race card against Ron Paul over the newsletters, hiding behind the $plc to smear an obviously non-racist man as racist. Not only had they NOT been written by him and had been public knowledge for years, but vdare, which helped sponsor CPAC last year and supported the content of the newsletters, says racially inflammatory things on a regular basis (though some of their writers don't do that so much as the others and can make sense) that make the newsletters the GOP establishment cried fake crocodile tears over look incredibly mild (along with employing an openly anti-Semitic professor). What's so bad about saying most black people don't have sensible politics anyways, considering most (but not all) of them are brainwashed liberals? Howowitz, Hannity, Levin, and Geller are apparently too cowardly to claim say, Coulter is a racist like they smeared Paul as being although hopefully at least Coulter and Malkin were sensible enough not to join the phony outrage over the newsletters given their ties to the site.
I've read old threads about the newsletters from the election from so-called "conservatives". I thought our side was better than that sort of gutter race-baiting hypocrisy?
Posted by: Joe on July 2, 2013 06:27 PM
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