/ February 10, 2005 01:41 AM
I just can't understand these women. They must be legitimately crazy because for the majority of these molesting teachers they are in pretty good shape and are -- in some cases -- very good looking. On top of that they are teachers, so they're not total bimbo's. Brains and beauty yet they choose to engage in sexual activity with a young teenage boy.
Here is her Wedding Announcement.
A Warren County elementary teacher faces a maximum 100 years in prison if she's convicted of having a sexual relationship with a 14-year-old boy.
Only news two was in Fentress County as 27-year-old Pamela Rogers Turner was arrested and charged with 15 counts of sexual battery by an authority figure and 13 counts of statutory rape. District Attorney General Dale Potter said that Turner, a physical education teacher and coach at Centertown Elementary, had an ongoing sexual relationship with a male student. Potter said that some of the incidents even took place at school and at the boy's home, where the teacher reportedly lived a short while.
"Most of the time, we try to prosecute them as harshly as possible when it comes to sex crimes involving children. As far as this case, we intend to prosecute it to the fullest extent possible. As far as saying that she will get an x amount of time or anything like that, that will probably be determined by a judge," said Potter.
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Posted by Digger on February 10, 2005 01:41 AM (Permalink)
Mary Kay Letourneau wasn't unattractive, either. I wonder if these women haven't been hit on one too many times or possibly sexually abused as children. Said another way their attractiveness may have caused their problems.
Posted by: Dave Schuler on February 10, 2005 07:25 AM
I suppose you could be right. It would fall more in line with them being rejected by 13-year-old boys when they were a kid though wouldn't it?
Now they're trying to relive their lost youth or something...
Posted by: Digger on February 10, 2005 07:30 AM
FIRST OF BEFORE SHE GETS A HARSH SENTENCE ASK THE KID WHO HAD THE RELATIONSNHIP WITH HER IF HE DOES FEEL VIOLATED AT ALL AND WHAT HE THINKS OF HER SENTENCE I DONT THINK IS RIGHT FOR HER TO HAVE SEX WITH A STUDENT BUT TO SENTENCE HER TO A 100 YEARS COME ONE I DONT HINK THE KID OR THE FATHER IS MAD AT HIM FOR SLEEPING WITH HER IF THEY ARE MAN THEYRE GAY COME ON I WAS 13 5 YEARS AGO I WISH I HAD A TEACHER LIKE THAT AND ALSO MAN KIDS NOW A DAYS ARE HAVING SEX MORE THAN RABBITS
Posted by: OK on February 10, 2005 08:09 AM
If I hear one more guy say he wished he had a teacher do that when he was 13 I am going to PUKE!
Digger, I truly believe that there is some mental stuff going on here, possible by younger abuse on her, but it is also this society that pushes sexuality with no boundaries. (see above commenter) We are raising our kids in this sex saturated culture and no one seems to care.
Posted by: Rightwingsparkle on February 10, 2005 08:41 AM
It's cool to sleep with younger men but not that young. he'll grow up and have problems when he is older relizing what she did was wrong.
Posted by: sarah on February 10, 2005 08:52 AM
It's cool to sleep with younger men but not that young. he'll grow up and have problems when he is older relizing what she did was wrong.
Posted by: sarah sonderman on February 10, 2005 08:53 AM
I had a relationship with a very good looking high school teacher when I was 16. I would have done it at 13 but didnt know her yet. I can say I was totally driven by my hormones, but after the act, I felt guilty for some reason and avoided contact with her for a while afterward. She repeatedly tried to contact me for few months, but eventually went away. I dont think she hurt me in any way, and shouldnt be considered a criminal, just horny for a young boy... To try these people for a crime if both party's consented and there was no use of force is ridiculous in my opinion...
Posted by: Buttlesdog on February 10, 2005 08:54 AM
I'm just curious what a female gym teacher is doing teaching boys in the first place. Men for boys and women for girls makes sense to me.
Posted by: Ralph on February 10, 2005 09:00 AM
people make too much out of sex ! it can't be all her fault!!!!!!!!!! it's hard to force a wet vagina over a limp penis especially when he is trying to get away!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!#########
Posted by: abe on February 10, 2005 09:24 AM
The last picture tells me she's going to invoke the "Mountain Dew" defense.
And Sarah, get that horrible stutter worked on.
Posted by: Gordon on February 10, 2005 09:57 AM
Sounds like VERY confused women who lost something along the way. Society loves the story and we all oggle. Sad.
Posted by: Colby Black on February 10, 2005 10:53 AM
This girl is freak'in hot!!! I would have done her if I had the chance @ 13 too. We need to have more hot teachers like here.
Posted by: fred on February 10, 2005 11:29 AM
it's not all her fault.teenagers need to be held accountable for their actions as well as the adults.i'M sure he wasn't hurt by what took place.he will eventually brag to his friends if he hasn't already. i know i would have.
Posted by: jim on February 10, 2005 11:40 AM
dont blame the kid at all id do her too
Posted by: annonmous on February 10, 2005 11:56 AM
PUNISHMENT FOR BOTH INVOLVED SHOULD BE (NEITHER EVER HAVE BE ABLE TO HAVE SEX AGAIN, DOCTOR VISIT ;))
Posted by: WHAT on February 10, 2005 11:58 AM
Posted by: Amber on February 10, 2005 12:17 PM
I wonder why a grown woman has sex with a child? is it that she have controll where maybe, the older men in her life take all the controll in bed. i really feel sorry for the boy, she should know better!
Posted by: vinie on February 10, 2005 01:29 PM
yea it was pretty stupid of her to get it on with some kid especially with everything goin around bout kids bein raped and shit but i diagree with her being charged with a felony im 15 now and that chick is hot i would have sexed her damn good when i was 13
Posted by: Josh on February 10, 2005 03:24 PM
I think it is disgusting, no matter how hot she is, which she is (NOT) she shouldn't influence young people especially young men which are already sex crazed as it is especially at 14 to get involved sexually with her. She should know as a teacher being around children and yes he is still a child, that they are impressionable and vulnurable and she should have had the common sense to hold back. I mean if you are so pathetic that the only person you can get to @#$! you is a 14 year old boy you should be tied to a tree and SHOT! I think 100 years isn't long enough. I feel sorry for the boy but if he would have had better parents it could have been prevented, I mean take an interest already!
Posted by: Ericka on February 10, 2005 03:35 PM
My guess is that the kid is a hero amongst his peers. Let's face it folks, boys and girls are different. Although the "crime" is the same, no matter whether the adult is male or female, the psychological outcome is not. Thirteen year old boys think of nothing else but sex(well,and baseball), and my guess is that the kid go's to bed at night with a tremendous grin on his face.
Posted by: Mike on February 10, 2005 03:45 PM
pardon me but what is the big deal here. would it be any different if they were both 13 and they were already sexually active. once upon a time in this world, not to long ago, ppl did marry and have children this young. granted the guy would have been a bit older, but all the same. so what has changed. physiologically speaking, females at that age do start to menstate, so they must be able to handle it.
Posted by: confused on February 10, 2005 03:59 PM
I agree with Abe-it goes both ways. What I want to know though, is what is up with these sick parents and guardians who are starving, beating and torturing their children and infants lately. BOOM BOOM BOOM one after the other the past two weeks. Today it's all about an infant hours old that had been thrown from a car window. I think the media should pay more attention to these serious situations and shed little to no light on this bull@*^. but that is just my opinion, and opinions are like assholes everyone has one, some of them stink.
Posted by: Another disgusted person on February 10, 2005 07:22 PM
A PRETTY FACE DOESNT MEAN A PRETTY HEART, SHE DIDNT LOOK PAST HER SELFESHNESS TO CONSIDER ANYONE ELSE. LOOK WHAT SHE IS DRAGGING HER FAMILY INTO. IT IS NOT UNCOMMEN FOR ATTRACTIVE WOMEN TO THINK THAT THEY ARE ALL THAT MATTERS.
Posted by: DAVID STILWELL on February 10, 2005 07:27 PM
Got it bad, Got it bad, Got it bad.....I'm hot for teacher...Van Halen sang it and I was fortunate enough to live it at a school in Phoenix....I was 14 and didn't care her age, man was it cool..
Posted by: Mike on February 10, 2005 09:36 PM
Also, you apathetic fat asses need to wake up and smell the fact that today's 13 is like our 30...they aren't kids anymore...the world puts these kids on the street as fast as they are spit out...spend more attention to keeping your own son's penis out of HIS teacher.
Posted by: Mike on February 10, 2005 09:44 PM
Well, let's get down to business=with all the media buzz about sex, hetero vs. homo, women now choosing to be with women straight-up vs getting some d&*K and men doing god knows what behind closed doors, it was only a matter of time before s*&t like this started to happen. even though i lost my virginity at a very young age i was not as lucky as that 13-year kid! oh and ERIKA-lets be real YOU THOUGHT SHE WAS HOT!!!!!!
Posted by: atl_shortie on February 10, 2005 09:56 PM
So most of the women are against this type of behavior and most of the men are for it. Go figure. The bottom line is boys and girls are not the same, the sooner we realize that the better off our kids will be. We can't treat this as though it would have been the same type of crime if it were a young girl. This is what 30 years of feminism has brought us, we now want to beat it into a 13 year old boy's head that he was victimized regardless of whether he realizes it or not. Here's a flash, this kid will go on to lead a normal life. Now if a priest forced himself on a 13 year old boy that would be a different story. This issue is about power more than seduction.
Posted by: aj on February 10, 2005 10:32 PM
what would you do as a horny young person and some hot person wanted to screw your brains out? I am outraged that there are so many fingers pointed at one when he probibly loved every second of it! wHAT BETTER WAY TO LEARN THEN BY SOMEONE WHO IS EXPERIENCED! I wouldn't be surprized if he did it several times with her then got caught and made it sound as he had nothing to do with it. way harsh sentance for her. i do agree it take two
Posted by: cyble66 on February 11, 2005 12:31 AM
if it was me...i would have not do sex...i wld so oral sex for her .....
Posted by: hi on February 11, 2005 12:45 AM
I HAD SEX WITH ATEACHER WHEN I WAS 16 AND IT WAS ONE OF THE BEST THINGS TO EVER HAPPEN TO ME. I THINK HER PUNISHMENT IS WAY TO HARSH. EVERYONE IS INTO HAVING SEX.
Posted by: BRAD on February 11, 2005 03:58 AM
Comne on everyone! This is an outrage, are there other teachers out there? I teach high school at a large mid west school. It is very scary to deal with at times. I never have my door open or very seldom do I give personal attention to students without more than one being in the room at the same time. It isn't worth the problems that can arrise. Not because I cannot restrain myself, but because these kids will do and say almost anything. I have one particular student that flaunts her stuff around the room. I spoke with Mom and Dad about this problem. Response, "She gets that from my side of the family"! While the teacher was definately 100% wrong. Where and when does some responsibility fall back onto the family?
Posted by: SCR on February 11, 2005 04:15 AM
Disgusting. This woman is twice the childs age and in a position of authority.
Posted by: Jane on February 11, 2005 05:30 AM
Ms. Turner's looks are irrelevant. The fact that the boy may have been sexually active prior to this event is irrelevant. The FACT of the matter is that he is a child and she is an adult. Societally and morally, it is WRONG for her to have sexual relations with him.
Furthermore, this woman is married. She has not only committed a sexual offense on a minor (no matter his willingness), but also committed adultery.
What NO ONE here has mentioned is the fact that God created sex FOR MARRAIGE ONLY -- not whenever you see someone you think is hot or just want to drop your pants. There will NEVER be true fulfillment in sex without the covenant of a marriage committment. The Word says it. Research shows and life in general proves it.
The problem isn't Ms. Turner's alone. It's the attitudes of the majority of posters we all see here. Sex is a casual thing -- with no consequences or morals involved (or so people think).
THAT is the ROOT PROBLEM with this situation and thousands more like it. It's wrong and it can't be justified by her looks, his activity or either of their hormonal ragings.
Posted by: CJ on February 11, 2005 07:05 AM
If this had been a man with a 13-year-old-girl I think some of the idiots opinions on this board would change. It's disgusting all the way around and she needs to be punished severely.
Posted by: Stevie on February 11, 2005 07:20 AM
It it quite obvious that CJ was and probably still is socially kicked around like a soccer ball....No fullfillment of sex until marriage?...sexually repressed fat asses like you drive the smile on my face to reach to reach painful extention, much like the erection as I think of the days I was nailing YOUR teacher. Now go play with yourself...
Posted by: Tim on February 11, 2005 08:15 AM
When I was 13 I had a damn sexy trainee gym teacher and would have jumped at the chance if she'd offered to screw me stupid. This guy is the luckiest kid alive. Other guys his age are wackin' off to woman like her, wishin' they could have some action.
Posted by: Scottish Dave on February 11, 2005 09:58 AM
i believe that what the teacher did was wrong. nobody should ever have sexual relations with a kid whether it is a boy or girl. it is just wrong. i am a christian and so i believe that even though what she did was wrong, we should all forgive her for what was done. it may not be easy for some people but everybody makes bad mistakes from time to time so my heart goes out to her. i have been in trouble too in the past for something different but it is the past. i got through it because i talked to God alot and i know that if i ask then he will forgive me because he loves me. not just me but everybody. does anyone else feel the same way that i do?
Posted by: tyler shivers on February 11, 2005 10:37 AM
Of course, the guy enjoyed having sex with her. Afterall I am sure she also made sure he pass his exams and probably was her favorite student. I am a guy and looking at her, its not hard to see why got excited. She is sexy and hot and its impossible to have sex if one is not erected. Nonetheless the law must be fair, because had it been a male teacher and a young female student, the media would say "Hang em high". The double standard is what got this coutry so screwed now.!!!
Posted by: Andy on February 11, 2005 10:56 AM
I cannot believe this kids luck.I would have so kept my mouth shut about all of it and rode her to the end of the earth.Im 30yrs old and will gladly take her up on any conjugal visits that she may be allowed.Just let me know Pam.
Posted by: Livin' in TN on February 11, 2005 12:00 PM
I am 28 years old now and I did have sex at 14 years old, but she was 17. Not that it was great but I do remember. I would have had sex with my teacher if she was a beauty. I mean, after all, really all she was doing was giving him a new lesson on how to please a lady and all men wish we knew more about women. This kid will be asked so many questions by other kids so they can learn too.
Posted by: Jeremy on February 11, 2005 12:01 PM
Posted by: big13 on February 11, 2005 01:09 PM
damn dat lil boy got some good loking pussy cuz she fine den a bitch i wouldn't mind beatin her pussy up
Posted by: dj on February 11, 2005 01:12 PM
CJ is right and Tim and others are wrong (just tellin' it like it is everyone). I'm one who had early sex and thought it was very cool at the time, then realized in later years how foolish it really was. God has a plan and when men and women think they're above it they are so off the mark they cannot even comprehend it. Best case, your future spouse will be only mildly jealous and you'll wish you'd held out for them. Worst case, some folks get diseases and pregnant and all other bad stuff. I'm glad I'm not in the latter category but many are. Ya gotta ask yourself - are you next?!?
Posted by: C on February 11, 2005 03:34 PM
I think everybody should wait until she is found guilty before you hang her. Do you think there is a chance in hell that this kid was wanting to screw his teacher, so he bragged to his friends about it and nothing actually happened? So far I have not seen one bit of proof other than the news media trying to drag her ass through the mud and make her look like she's guilty before she even has a chance at trial. I'm not saying that she is not guilty, but everybody is innocent until proven guilty in a Court of law.
Posted by: Ted on February 11, 2005 05:09 PM
Sorry Moms but it's True! That little 13 year old boy knew what he was doing. Just like any other 13 year old they wish they were doing, Having Sex! Thats right, the teachers hot and we all would like to be having sex with her. 100 years in prison? Come on!
Posted by: JWB on February 11, 2005 05:34 PM
I know Pam and Chris. I also know that Pam has confessed saying it was "consentual." It doesn't matter if the BOY wanted the sex or not. That is irrelevent as it is irrelevent in the cases where school girls seduce their male teachers. You think that girls don't fantasize about coaches and hot teachers when they are school age? I hate to break it to all of the pathetic men out there but girls have sexual desires too. But, if a girl in that position seduced or wanted sex from their teacher and he did it, he would serve MANY years in prison. Her maximum prison sentence is 100 years. Do some research and see what these women have received. Most of them "probation." That is it. Now look at the male sentencing. I am a woman and also in the education system. No matter what the reason, you know as a person, as a HOT woman, as a teacher....you don't go there...PERIOD. As I said, I know them well and also know that Pam was obsessed with her husband. He is a hot teacher himself and she use to tell me that she was worried that some girls would try to seduce him or start rumors. She said, "can you imagine what that would do to us..." She knew right from wrong. She screwed a boy not because she was a sex crazed hottie but because she couldn't control her husband. She was obsessed with him....he couldn't do anything without her needy attention. She got this kid because it was a minature Chris (great athlete and person) that she could control. I really liked Pam and was shocked to hear this. It took me a while to put it into perspective but as hard as it is to say about someone you held in high regards, she needs to serve the same punishment that a male would in the same case!!!
Posted by: leigh on February 11, 2005 06:43 PM
somebody always finds out. why would he say anything. i would have kept that to myself
Posted by: dud on February 11, 2005 06:45 PM
Good lord, the cluelessness of some of the posters here!
Let's face facts, people, the woman is a pedophile. 13 year old boys are almost always pre-pubscent. She is a sexual predator because a normal woman would have never had sex with a little boy. And as a teacher, she is charged with a special responsibility NOT to USE her students..to exploit them and that includes using them as a sex toy.
And those of you that think this is all peachy keen for the boy... (excuse me Digger why I go 'french' here) f**k you all to hell, y'all sound like a chapter of NAMBLA.
I've worked in a DA office for seven years. I've gotten to where I almost don't want to read the files I'm working in from the CAC unit (crimes against children). We've prosecuted teachers, too, before and all of them are "sick" in one way or another. And all the perps say the same thing "s/he liked it!"
Just contemplate this little case that we processed today ... a molested 9 y/o boy... the one who molested him? His 11 y/o cousin. And why? Because the 11 y/o has been "having sex" with his 27 y/o uncle for a couple of years.
Yeah...mutual consent..it's a wonderful thing.
Posted by: Darleen on February 11, 2005 06:46 PM
I am originally from McMinnville. What a town?! Just as an FYI, this isnt the first time this has happened in this particular school system. I guess being a guy it doesnt really hit me hard that she was with a 13-14 y/o guy. What boy in 8th grade never looked at a hot teacher and at least wondered. But, on a sicker note, two more times this has happened in McMinnville. 1996-football coach alleged having sex with a cheerleader. In that same time frame a male teacher was convicted of fondling little boys. Is there something wrong with this whole school system in Warren Co.
Posted by: JB on February 11, 2005 07:36 PM
I have both boys ans girls in school and I do not want my children abused sexually by anyone, but especially not by a teacher. A teacher is suppose to be a role model and in a position of authority. Sexual abuse will affect you mentally whether boy or girl. Maximum sentance should be given to her.
Posted by: dewayne on February 11, 2005 09:15 PM
yea i agree that god does intend for us to wait until we are married to have sex and that it was not right for her to screw the little kid but come on the little boy so injoyed it i know kids that his age that are nasty little pervs that have crushes on their teachers and its not just her fault IT TAKES TWO TO TANGO! her punishment should be less. I also do have to say yea she was stupid to fool with the kid but i doesn't mean she should get 100 years she was attacted to him the kid was attracted to her they screwed if they had both been older or the same age this would be a totally different situation!
Posted by: bballer on February 11, 2005 10:13 PM
OK....in my day teachers were old and near retirement...nowadays all the girls I went to school with are now these teachers....and I'm sorry to say some are hot...but I wouldn't let my son..who is 13...bang his teacher...jeez...granted in my head I would be jumping up and down and doing a jig but as a parent I can't condone this..it's sick...but 100 years...give me a break..is it really so bad to give an orgasm? The path goes both ways and when I was 13 all I thought about was sex...I was lucky enough to live where Porn mags were readily available. He should be punished as well...but neither of them should get 100 years...probation and get them out of the precious court's time and energy when they could be going after the real criminals...say for instance... his parents.
Posted by: kinslayer on February 11, 2005 10:27 PM
Honestly, at 13 that would have been a fantasy. I would have welcomed the help of an experienced woman like her. She did not rape this boy...the only problem is the way this got blown out of proportion...that's wht will mess the kid up.
Posted by: samisus on February 12, 2005 04:26 AM
I think it might get to the point of young boys saying they did it to get back at their fantasies not becoming reality when she says no...we shall see the out come of this story. She is an attractive woman with the ability to get most any man. I find it strange, sound like some one got turned down and is mad. He'll have to live with his conscience if this is a hoax.
Posted by: Hasty on February 12, 2005 06:44 AM
Those of you thinking it's a hoax really surprise me. Sure she's innocent until proven guilty, but 15 counts? If it was a hoax I could see 1 or 2, but 15?
Posted by: Digger on February 12, 2005 06:55 AM
Let me say a couple of things about the "100 years" ... either it was a little theater coming from a DDA who should know better or it was from a reporter unexperienced with the law.
She was charged with 28 counts (15 of sexual batter by an authority, 13 of statutory rape) ... that means the authorities sat down and figured 28 separate incidents of sex over a long period of time, with 15 of them occuring on the school grounds themselves. Each count probably is a 2 or 3 year exposure and the reporter is looking at consecutive (which is very unusual) rather than concurrent time.
IMHO (and if she has a smart defense attorney) she'll plea bargain- and depending on what the DDA thinks is a reasonable sentence, admit guilt to 2 or 3 counts, all other charges dismissed, with sentencing recommendation (depending on her cooperation with Probation) of some jail time, probation with psychiatric counseling, registering as a sex offender and stripped of her teaching credentials.
If she had had multiple victims, it would be an entirely different story, even if there were the same number of counts.
Posted by: Darleen on February 12, 2005 08:03 AM
Well, I have never been able to understand any adult that has sex with a child. It just doesn't make sense to me. At all.
Posted by: Rogue on February 12, 2005 09:12 AM
INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY SO FAR WHAT EVEIDENCE SOME OF YOU THINK ABOUT IT JUST A LITTLE
Posted by: ted on February 12, 2005 12:22 PM
Uh, Ted? That's in a court of law.
Do you think you can think about that just a little?
Posted by: Darleen on February 12, 2005 12:33 PM
My kindergarten used to hit on me. But I didn't know she was hitting on me, I do now. Nothing ever happened, and if it did, I doubt it would have damaged me none.
Its about power and control, that can be sexually arousing. Its a social problem and should be dealt in a social way, not in a criminal way.
Posted by: Roger on February 12, 2005 09:31 PM
some of you ignorant people fail to realize that back when this country started 13 was an age when people started families and starting families involve having sex.only in the corrupt world we live in now and that being the backstabbing baptists and whatever other religious nuts deem wrong unless no one knows about ban things that most countries consider normal.that kid wanted it.like another gentleman wrote on here you cannot penetrate with out a rigid penis.if this is all we can focus our attention on and not pay attention to more important issues like drugs and murder, homosexuality the fact that our government controls our so called freedom then were our going to be in some trouble.
Posted by: slowhand on February 13, 2005 01:05 AM
man i would fuck that pussy like that u know u would to
Posted by: jediah on February 13, 2005 11:35 AM
I hope she burns in Hell. She was God on Earth. Think about it.. A child who just turned 13. Like he knew what was happening to him. He wasn`t 17, he was 13 - UNDERSTAND! Some of you who post on this board, may God help you.....
Posted by: t.farr on February 13, 2005 12:10 PM
she should be prosecuted the same as a man should.If someone is being prosecuted for murder or any other major crime does it matter if they are male or female? I would like to think not.Women have been fighting every issue that has to do with sexuality, from their actions in the military all the way down to high school sporting teams.They want the rights to do as they please, witch I beleive they should,then they should also face the same penalties when it comes to commiting a crime.The human brain works the same in a man as a women,Just because they are female is no excuse.
Posted by: Dana on February 13, 2005 03:04 PM
come on people he may have only been 13 but he knew what he was doing. Im only 22 but if i would have had a teacher who looked that good and she tried to have sex with me i would have been more than willing to screw my teacher. lets just face the fact there is a lot more of this happening than what we actually know about. this is gonna change kids become sexually active a lot sooner than they did before.
Posted by: dustin on February 13, 2005 04:42 PM
shit if dat waz me id bee rippin up dat pussy!
Posted by: bgcck on February 13, 2005 05:38 PM
If some guy did that to your 13 year old daughter, you folks would be pissed
Posted by: dee on February 13, 2005 08:29 PM
I would have had sex with her at 13, I was fantasizing about having sex with my 6th grade teacher when I was in 6th grade, and I'm 24.
Posted by: Justin on February 13, 2005 10:37 PM
A hell of a lot of 13 y/o boys fantasizing about driving a fancy sports car, too, but that doesn't mean they should.
Posted by: Darleen on February 13, 2005 10:58 PM
Im very concerned about our society..Noone has any class anymore.I really cant believe the idiots comment on how pretty women are all selfish! What is that? I was also impressed with the moron who cant speak English...hit dat pussy..GROSS! Before we judge other lets take a peek at ourselves. I also do not think she should go to jail for 100 years.Maybe mandatory counseling... Im sure they are both embearassed to death by now!She is from a SMALL (you know everyone) town..my parents owned a house out there and I know her entire Family is disgraced.She should have thought about the consequences 1st...Her mistake..Poor girl will probably kill herelf over this crap.Hey where is the picture of the child tramp who is now some kind of hero now among men...lol from a 38 y.o. women who is attracted to adults 30 and up only!
Posted by: kh on February 14, 2005 01:34 AM
u see y would she do it in the 1st place? i mean is she desparate? is it lack of sex that has brought herthis low? its weird...
Posted by: jonathan on February 14, 2005 05:17 AM
In the civil criminal system there is a simple principle of justice concerning any prison sentence: nulla poena sine iniuria.
It means that in any concrete case we have to preaviously ascertain if the behaviour of the wrongdoers is able to cause a mental or phisical injuries. If we find those injuries we can send them in the jail, otherweise we should not. So this decision is possible only after a deep consideration of the all circumstances as for cases like this: the age of the victim; if the victim appears to be more mature than the usual, is he has really consented the sex relation, if the wrongdoer has not used violence etc...
In my opinion before taking the freedom to someone you must consider all the aspect of the case and be aware that there are al lot of other potential and useful punishments as big recover for dameges, compulsory physichiatric cure etc..
Posted by: Peter on February 14, 2005 11:02 AM
The single most damaging thig an adult can do to perminently harm a childs life (short of murdering them) is to have sex with them. regardless of parent priest teacher or other. It is so unbielevably selfish!
Posted by: kc on February 15, 2005 11:02 AM
Adults are not supposed to sleep with children and from what I read here, the overwhelming majority think it's not a big deal. Okay, so it's okay for a 13 year old boy to sleep with a 27 year old teacher...okay, where do we draw the line or will we be sitting here 10 years from now defending a teachers' right to seduce a pre-schooler? It seems the morality line gets a bit fuzzier each passing year and pretty soon if a stand isn't taken, anything will go!
Posted by: Laurie on February 15, 2005 01:53 PM
she is so damn hot and sexy.That boy is really lucky.I would have done that too. Hot blond teacher.
Posted by: c on February 15, 2005 02:12 PM
Everyone wants to dismiss the fact that these are underage BOYS, and it is cool or macho for boys to engage in SEX with their teachers. Would you feel the same way if the SEX act was with a male teacher. I don't think so! It is wrong regardless of the gender...
Posted by: JayWay on February 16, 2005 09:30 AM
REMEMBER JESUS LOVES AND FORGIVES....
Posted by: john temp on February 17, 2005 06:08 AM
All these people saying that this is not a big deal are bullshitters. Yeah I'm a guy and I can say it would be pretty tight to have *&%^$* a hot @$$ teacher at 13 but if I were 13 and actually did it I'm sure it would've messed me up mentally somehow. Besides why is it alright for a woman to molest a boy, and yes that is what this is molestation; but if this were a 30 year old man that had sex with a 13 year old girl the country would be in uproar and all of these comments would change. All of the men on this site would say, "that piece of $hit should die, blah blah blah".
Posted by: Anyways on February 23, 2005 07:18 PM
This behavior is not acceptable. Imagine the consequences if every teacher was freely engaging in sex with his/her young students. It is unprofessional and abuse of authority, not to mention morally wrong. A teacher is there to teach, and teaching and learning cannot be accomplished in a classroom where the teacher/student are having sexual relationships. Students should be able to trust their teachers to not take advantage of them. This crap about the student enjoying it is irrelevant. It's possible to enjoy a lot of things that we aren't ready for and are not good for us. This case is about molestation by a sexual predator - end of story.
Posted by: Kristin on February 23, 2005 08:06 PM
Hey folks, let'e get real about all this Pamela Turner stuff. Having sex with an older woman is a male's "right of passage." It used to be that a boy's dad, when the son matured, would find a "lady of the night" to introduce him to sex. The theory being that with all the raging hormones at that age, the son would find an outlet anyway with some, probably immature, female of the same age and the result could be some real damage in later years to both, sexually and emotionally. Every boy, unless he lived in a cave, new of some "loose" local woman who would "tutor"a young boy in his first experience. Thank God for these women who performed a real community service and usually gave the boys invaluable lessons in the art of lovemaking, and with no so-called long-term damage.
End of story. Let life go on in the real world!
Posted by: Jim Fawcett on February 26, 2005 10:55 AM
i think it is one thing to have a boy come on to you and it is another to be in a relationship with him for christ sake is she fucking retarded he was 14 you have to be a dumb ass to do that and when his mother was kind enough to let you stay in their house and the whole time she was boning her son.....shows how much stupid-ass bimbos can be trusted and to pam rogers if your reading this you can burn in hell!!!!!
Posted by: Anne on February 28, 2005 02:14 PM
it is one thing to have a boy come on to you and its another to let him. he is 14 ok are you stupid his mother was kind enough to let her stay in their house and the whole time she was screwing him. How many blondes does it take to change a light bulb? who knows it only takes one to have sex with a student
Posted by: Anne on February 28, 2005 02:17 PM
Come on people. This shit was wrong. Turn it around.A 27 year old male gym teacher having sex with a 13 year old girl.I think the rules should apply both ways. If you can't do the time, don't do the crime.The laws concerning age of consent are there to protect our children.They need to be enforced.
Posted by: Jesse on February 28, 2005 08:47 PM
It seems every female think this woman did a terrible horrible thing, and every male here thinks it was great. Since we males are the only ones who have ever been 13 year old boys, I believe we are the most qualified to analyze the effects of this. I guarantee you, when I was young if this had been me, I may have felt a LITTLE guilt, but mostly my self-esteem would be shot through the roof! In conclusion I say it is a travesty that this woman is being put in jail. She should be given a damn medal for a great public service. Oh, but if it had been two males that bastard should go to jail. If it had been a young female--well i'll let the females determine the effects of such an experience. Guessing that i know what they'd say, i'd say that bastard should go to jail too
Posted by: Cody on March 1, 2005 10:10 AM
that being said, i'd like to say yes what this woman did was wrong, but it was also awesome! And, this kid knew exactly what was goin on
Posted by: Cody on March 1, 2005 10:15 AM
I agree. I would have felt like the biggest stud in the world if I had bagged one of these recently arrested female teachers. Of course, the down side is these 13 year old boys have peaked already. It's all down hill for them from here. Think about how thrilling it was just to see porn at that age. Can you imagine going all the way with hot chicks like that???
Posted by: Tim on March 3, 2005 12:47 AM
Look, she's been put in a position of authority and abused it. If this was a male adult teacher going after a female student, most people would be ready to hang him. It should be no different for Pamela Turner.
I don't care if she's hot, she's in a position of authority and used it to get booty.
Posted by: Thndrclap on March 4, 2005 02:55 PM
Where were these teachers when I was in high school??? Great God, I'd have never told anyone and denied everything if I were the boy!
Posted by: Tony on March 4, 2005 07:44 PM
i think there should be more teachers like that around. i wish i had a pretty teacher that would do me when i was in middle school. wouldnt all middle school student want that. hell yeah they do. if any of you stupid ass people got a problem with my comment email me and complain all you want. just because you people never had a chance to do your teacher when you were at that age dont get all upset about these teacher that are doing their students.
Posted by: lucky on March 5, 2005 06:56 PM
Well, don’t be shocked but when I was 12 or 13 don’t remember which, I was educated by an older woman. She was the first woman I had ever saw naked and I will never forget it. She was just a friend of the family, mid 20s and gorgeous. It started by me asking her some questions and she showed me her body and explained how things happened and took me step by step through the act of lovemaking. Well I can never thank her enough for that. I never have had better than that time. She taught me what to do and what not to do, what felt good to a woman, so in later years I didn’t bumble my way through love making. Well, I just wonder if this happens to a lot of young guys. It sure didn’t mess me up. Helped me a lot and I will never forget that woman
Posted by: Jo Jo on March 6, 2005 05:30 AM
As a teacher and a mother of two sons, God help the whore who tries to put her slutty hands on one of my kids. She will not have to worry about prison because her life would end. Anyone who thinks this is okay is truly lacking any cranial capacity. Again, if she was a man she would be hung by the balls. By the way, my husband and his friends were molested by one of his high school teachers who also bought them pot and she is now a principal. He definitely has some issues related to what happened - mainly that it was wrong and mental abuse no matter how horny he was. She held it over their heads as well to manipulate them. Also, teenage boys are nasty - zits, b.o., etc. Who the hell would be turned on by that? A psycho, that's who, or a teenage girl!
Posted by: Lizz on March 6, 2005 01:26 PM
Posted by: a friend on March 7, 2005 02:25 PM
TO EVERYONE WHO IS BEING JUDGEMENTAL JUST REMEMBER: YOU SHALL BE JUDGED ONE DAY TOO!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: Sara on March 10, 2005 06:57 PM
Posted by: Derek on March 22, 2005 08:25 AM
I went to Clarkrange high School with Pamela Rogers, and I think she deserves her day in court. Her mom and dad were very strict and made sure she had a good upbringing. I am having a hard time believing these accusations. If you knew her, you would too. I seriously doubt she would give up her husband and the respect of her family for a 13 year old kid.
Posted by: sarah clay on March 28, 2005 11:40 AM
Ask any of your guy friends the age in which they lost their virginity. I guarentee you that most of them will say around 14. Boys are sexual at a much younger age than girls. I don't believe this boy was 'violated'. I know a lot of men who had their first time with much older babysitters, maids, etc. They grow up to be perfectly mentally healthy.
As for the older women who sleep with these young boys...I really don't get why. I would never even think of doing something like that. I believe these women might have some mental issues, but don't believe that their acts effect these boys (rather than making them happy).
Posted by: Chachi on April 4, 2005 11:36 AM
I don't think the issue is so much that the boys are or aren't ready for sex. The issue is that it occurs with an adult who is in a position of authority over the boy. That is illegal. I think it's also immoral. Teachers are supposed to be helping protect our kids, not seducing them, and I for one would want to kill any adult teacher who had sex with my son. It's rape, pure and simple, whether the boy thinks so or not. It's just plain wrong and if society wants to say it's okay, then I just wonder what's next. Sex in pre-school? As long as the kid isn't negatively affected by it, right? I can't believe all the excuses being made for this teacher! Why? Cause she's pretty? Pretty psycho if you ask me...
Posted by: Laurie on April 4, 2005 12:34 PM
i definatly dont think it is right but hell they both should be held accountable she cant just force him well she can ...but if he was into it as much as she was then they both should be in trouble but no freakin 100 years in prison theres ppl out there killin ppl and they get less than that i mean come on
Posted by: Kindra on April 4, 2005 09:59 PM
I agree, 100 years in prison is ridiculous. Taxpayers pay a lot to keep prisoners behind bars and I think we should use the space for dangerous criminals.
I think she should be stripped of her ability to teach and should have to do 100 years of community service, picking trash up from the side of the road.
I think the adult bears the responsibility in this case,
Posted by: Laurie on April 5, 2005 06:08 AM
im 35 the teacher is fucking hot if i would have been 13 i would have fucked her in a heartbeat i think it is bullshit they want to give her 100 years for it if it was left up to me she wouldnt serve a day.these fucked up laws they have here in the u.s. fucking suck this country needs to be like amsterdam where anything goes
Posted by: paul on April 16, 2005 08:57 PM
I went to school with Pam she was only 2 years ahead of me and while she did come across as a better than you cause I'm pretty type and had the whole "ms. nitro" affair in '97 when she might (or might not have) lost her scholarship most of her bad behaviour seemed mild compared to some people I knew. But I still have to say a few things on the case in general....
1. the 13 year old should be held accountable for his part in the affair(if there truely was one)...
2. she is innocent until proven guilty (by the way other than he said/ she saids what proof do they have)....
3.lastly while everyone is giving her down the road what about the kids parents... I mean come on you have a 13 year old son(just the right age for the hormones to really kick in) and you invite a very pretty young teacher into your home to live while she is on the out with her hubby(which if reports are correct truely happened and is supposedly when the affair was consumated)...that's akin to sending your child to stay at neverland ranch, almost like they encourage it. Or hope something will give them either publicity or money for the "suffering" the child went through.
Hey if she did the crime do the time.... but never forget there are 2 sides to every story
Posted by: Jay on April 18, 2005 03:20 AM
Just a couple of questions concerning the victim:
Was he really accondiscendent?
Was he more mature than the other boys of his age?
Was he really scared doing sex?
Is he for the punishment of this women? And in case of a hard sentence how he will react? Would he feel himself guilty for this?
We could punish her but we have to consider all the aspects involved.
If we do that in this case we should conclude to punish her with a very light sentence.
Posted by: Peter on July 5, 2005 06:51 AM
LOLLLLLLL thats bullshit i started having sex with older women when i was 11 the first 1 was called camillia and was 24 years old.Man kid, teen boys are always ready for sex so what the hell is this?! I bet the kid was frikkin horny
Posted by: Polo on July 15, 2005 08:30 PM
If I were 13 and she approached me... I would have had sex with her too. I would have shut my mouth and tld nobody so I could continue to have sex with her. I was 13 once and I was having sex then. Let's be honest, most people would have sex with a gorgeous woman at almost any age from 13 on up if given the opportunity. Too many people on this site full of it.
Posted by: Steve on July 18, 2005 12:39 PM
Where in the hell were these teachers when I was in school? At 17 I was with a 34 year old woman and it was amazing. There is a double standard, deal. This kid is an idiot for opening his mouth. She should have picked a smarter kid.
Posted by: Charlie on August 11, 2005 03:33 PM
You're all assholes. I'm an asshole. She's an asshole. He's an asshole. Interesting, I wonder if he got a little back door action action out of this as well.
Posted by: Skwagmunkee on August 12, 2005 06:33 AM
I get a boner just looking at her.
Posted by: Ralph on August 12, 2005 08:52 AM
I wished I was 13 again. Hell I would still bang her now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: rotormaster on August 12, 2005 10:03 AM
u guys disagreeing are damn gay,,,quit worrying about other peoples sex life. In my opinion society is to wrapped up in sex. Get over it! Its a part of life. Damn hipocrits
Posted by: bigwads on August 12, 2005 01:39 PM
Everybody's got a valid point. I do think though that if the boy was totally OK with it, then she isn't so wrong. She didn't rape him. He insisted on all of it.
Posted by: steve on August 12, 2005 02:23 PM
WOW! I know she can't "SELL" her story to the media but I'd sure love to hear it. Does anybody know the address for the jail she is in? She'd be a great penpal. We'll try to get her to do a photo shoot... just for being HOT!
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Posted by: REVEAL Magazine on August 12, 2005 02:56 PM
She is a whore and a blasphemer and will be caste down unto the flaming pits for what all she done. IN this sick and wicked world were even the president of united states goerge bush has homosexual affair with a man their is no doubt that hell has a door open and those who sin will be cast unto the pit.
Posted by: Abner on August 12, 2005 08:55 PM
If this was a male teacher and a femail student they it would be different! What a joke!
Posted by: Jim on August 12, 2005 11:29 PM
Here is the end of another similar case. Do a google search on the names to read more about it.
The women spent 7 years in jail for her "crime".
Seems the boy was so heavily damaged that he decided to marry his rapist 10 years later.
Rapist and student to wed
It's one of those headlines you can't quite believe, but convicted child rapist Mary Kay Letourneau, 43, and her former student, Vili Fualaau, 22, have set a April 16 wedding date. Letourneau, who served 7 1/2 years on a 1997 conviction for raping Fualaau, had two children with him. "It's been long overdue," Noel Soriano, a friend of the couple, told the Seattle Post-Intelligencer. "It's going to be fabulous, seeing them get hitched finally." Soriano said Fualaau proposed last fall, but the couple has been trying to keep wedding details a secret. It is rumored 200 people are on the guest list and that the wedding will take place at a Seattle church.
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Posted by: prefer to stay anonymous on August 13, 2005 02:35 AM
She was naughty and needs to be disciplined. And I think I should be in chg of her punishment. For starters, she should be forced to give 50 bj's a day for me and my other 14 year old friends for a yr. And that's just for starters. :) Besides, in the reality of many of today's prisons, she'll be facing spankings, beatings, fistings, etc. anyway.
Posted by: Eric Tile on August 13, 2005 08:46 AM
The peoples that agree with her sentence are homosexuals. I was conscient at the age of 13 so this kid is homo and even that its hard to rape a penis to get it in ur pussy and pump.So the kid pumped and gave himself an orgasm and then open his mouth? Wow good job bitch by the way im 15 years old
Posted by: Champ on August 14, 2005 10:03 AM
I love how we have to go through the charade of a criminal trial with these women -to satisfy other women....when in our minds we're throwing them a ticker tape parade
Posted by: dev rios on August 15, 2005 10:19 AM
What was that kid thinking? Why didn't he keep his mouth shut and come back for more? And what was she thinking? She can't get none from a dude her age? Damn come here and I'd tear it up nonstop. Maybe she did this for fame. You know the media makes it a bigger scene when the suspect or victim is good looking.
Posted by: Final Word on August 16, 2005 01:42 AM
I good friend of mine was sleeping with one of the teachers in his final year at school. He thought he was the luckiest guy, and so did we all. 20 years on, he still thinks the same way. Mind you, he was 17, not 14, but this didactic and inflexible attitude to sex from a lot of posters above doesnt really help things. He's a happily married man with a good career and family.
As for the god-fearing ones, I have had enough from people who claim to know what god thinks. Most of them just can't deal with complex issues and need a good and bad black/white, good/evil view of the world to decrease their anxiety.
Posted by: rh on August 17, 2005 05:23 PM
The only people that disagree are the horny little basterds and no matter how you look at this it is still wrong. kids should be able to go to school and not have to worry about who their teachers are sleeping with that are their age. you have to think of as if it was a guy teacher sleepin with a 14 year old girl it would still be wrong
Posted by: Annie on August 17, 2005 07:27 PM
I would suppose many boys could sleep with their teachers and have no problems with it at all.
My concern is for the ones who would develop problems later on and this is the reason I believe it's wrong for a teacher to use his/her authority to seduce one of their students. Simply, it's abuse of power, regardless of who initiates it. You never know, either, who is going to think they have to do it for good grades, a continued good standing with the teacher or to get a coveted spot on the basketball team. And I understand this kid basically "insisted" upon this relationship, but give me a break. This woman, this teacher, was the adult and could have resisted. She didn't do that and for that, she should at least lose her job and not be allowed to teach in the future. Going to prison, to me, is ridiculous...save those beds for the murderers, etc. What she did was wrong, but lots of community service and no more teaching is all the punishment she deserves imo...she didn't kill this kid, she slept with him and some of the wrath spewed out is a bit much...IMO.
Posted by: Laurie on August 18, 2005 06:49 AM
i would DEFINATLY hit it! HAWT HAWT!
Posted by: silentbob on August 18, 2005 07:54 PM
Although the guesses as to why are pretty good ones, usually, the molester suffers fropm feelings of sexual inadequacies, and in an attempt to not have those proven true, they seek out the most inexperienced persons they can, usually prepubescents. This allows them to not only hide and deny their feelings, but also get an ego boost while those that they are with fawn over how good they are. I know this is a bit plain and to the point, but that's it in a nutshell. Not for all cases. As some of you have stated, there is quite often situations of abuse that leads to this. Having watched her however, I feel this to be the case. Just my opinion.
Posted by: Dr Chance McLin on August 19, 2005 06:12 PM
wow, this real life story made me hot. i wish it happened to me back in high school. even a teacher half as hot as pam doing me in the classroom would have made school worth going to!
but yes, it was wrong what she did and she should be punished. not.
Posted by: zagarna on August 20, 2005 04:12 AM
She is fine as hell. If I was that boy, I would have kept my mouth shut and keep banging her.
Posted by: Scorbing on September 11, 2005 01:12 AM
Someone above said that teachers are supposed to be smart. Trust me, in a PUBLIK SKOUL SISTEM TEECHERS AIN'T GOTTA BE SMART.
They only have to be politically correct, take the easy courses, get the all-important teaching certificate, and these assholes get let loose in the public school system.
You can get a Bachelor's Degree in Sociology or Home Economics, go take two semesters in grad school to get a "teaching certificate," and you can go teach math or science in a public school. That really sucks.
If I ever have a family of my own, I will spend the extra money to put them in a good private school or they will be home-schooled. Either way, I will not ever put my children in a GLIC (Government Liberal Indoctrination Center) aka a public school.
But DAMN, there were two hotties for teachers when I was in junior high school and man, all us guys wished Miss _____ or Miss ______ would do us.
Posted by: T Carney on October 17, 2005 07:22 PM
If you need to PUKE go ahead. I don't think there is any teen male in this world that would have said no to this chic or to Lafave. If they did, they would have to be either scared or sick! No, its not a good thing in the level headed adults eyes, but to a teen "male" it is. Any adult woman or adult man wanting to have sex with a "TEEN" has major problems in the brain area. Those problems had to have come from something in their childhood atmosphere. It had to be something that traumatized them psychologically and they most likely had no way of stopping it or getting help for what ever it may have been. For those that are not aware, things like this happen all over the country, the world that are not reported or found out. Moreover, it is not always a young "male" teen involved. Most cases involve a young female teen and male adult educator. The educator is usually saught after by the female teen. Do some research if you are alarmed, check into what most people don't want to know or hear about in "Their" town. How do you think you would feel if you found out this was going on with your "teen" and a good friend of yours was a teacher in the same school as your teen and turned their head to acknowledgement of this information? When I was in Jr High, we "students" knew of two cases and a possible third, teens of both sex! Teachers were single in two of the cases. You also have to watch out for the third type of arangement that gives me profound aversion to no end. So, where does this leave us? What do we need to do? How do we go about doing something to prevent things of this nature from happening? You tell me.
Posted by: Falcon on November 22, 2005 06:32 PM
I am madder than a bull that's been goosed by a cattle prod!!! If that was a MALE teacher having sex with a FEMALE student, that MALE teacher would be in prison and a dude much bigger than that teacher would be the "dude's property."
This really stinks. A teacher uses her hot looks to seduce a juvenile....
This beeyotch Turner should be in prison being "Matilda's property."
Posted by: Thomas Carney on November 22, 2005 06:38 PM
Pamela is writing me from prison, we plan to date when she gets out. She's a great gal and she did no harm people, so cut her some slack none of us are in a position to point nasty fucking fingers ok? We all live in glass houses and have no godamn buisness casting stones.
Posted by: Brian King on December 31, 2005 01:26 AM
You know, why does everyone dance around the real issues with all our jaw-jacking imposing our opinions on others ( can we say " Hail Hitler" everyone?, criminey you all amaze me with your gestapo bullshit views ) , everyone but a few has so much to say and the point that most make is either off target or superficial at best. Are we afraid to probe below the surface? Well I'm not. So here goes.
Has anyone wondered why these attractive women are going after these young men like this? Risking it all for sex? Listen up fella's this is sexual interest and desire that we are not accustomed to women exhibiting. And its messing with the status quo. Men are always the ones with all the sexual impulses, and the ones who act on them. Right? The nasty finger always gets pointed at men when the subject of sexuality comes up. Well....not any more. Finaly, the sunrise of sexual equality is rising on the horizon. Its about time.
Ok so in case your wondering about all these hot teachers going after men not even old enough to drive yet. Its a simple matter of physics people. These women crave the passion, excitement and pleasure of having sexual contact with men in peak condition. Its really that basic that simple. Is it because these women are sick?, wacko?, padaphile? Possibly, but not likely.
Our society has trained women to have sex for all the wrong reasons....you know....for money, for security, for companionship, for drugs, because his name is Johnny Football, or Joe Rockstar, or Donald Trump. Rarely do women have sex on the basis of pure sexual and physical desire. Rarely do they have sex because their entire physiology and nerology is lit up and they crave that physical gratification and satisfaction and contact like men do.
Well guess what...These women are going for it. And its for those reasons. Its not like these lucky teenagers they have targeted have wealth, savvy, success, sportscars, cocain, celebrity status to "offer" or to spark these women's interest so incredibly. I love the sexual initiative these attractive women are exhibiting its debunking all the old myths about women being less sexual than men. I freakin’ love it.
I should know.... the hot sexy women that date me could care less about the shitty car I drive, or the flashy friends and fancy lifestyle I don’t have. So what….I’m wealthy where it really counts. Women date me for my looks, my body, my personality, my brains, my charm and to have a great time and for great sex.
Casts a little different light on what we thought women really valued eh guys? And this runaway train rash of older women younger men thing is going to force our male dominated society to change its perspective of female sexuality. I just hope that not to many casualties of otherwise good women being thrown in jail for their spirits to rot results from it. But so far it has. Not good.
Women are finaly coming out of their shells and opening up sexualy and we destroy thier lives for it. I don’t like the message that is sending to women in general of our society. When a woman over 18 has sex with a teenager she’s not having sex with a child but with a young man….so that doesn’t make her a pedophile, nor does the fact that she craves great sex and acts on the impulse in a non-invasive way make her a rapist. But we are labeling them that arent we? Why does everyone feel so threatened? Trust me…..teenage boys eat this sort of thing like candy….and feeling threatened or violated is the furthest thing from their highly sexualy charged minds.
I’m all for protecting children not yet in puberty, Teenage boys are not children, so lets not cut our foot off to get rid of our ingrown toenail.
When I was 13 I was 6 feet tall, had a ripped athletic body, a voice like Randy Travis, and housewives in their 20's,30's and 40's chasing me like I was some sexual god. If anyone would have approached me and told me that it was illegal for me to have sex with anyone other than snot-nosed girls my own age, I would have either laughed in your face, or buiried my size 11 shoe right up your ass. My sex drive and interest in women was so intense you could split atoms with it. I was never more ready for sex my entire life!!! But I had to confine that to little virginal girls my own age? What an unmitigating crock of legal horse-shit. I prefered women who could handle me. Make sense?
So the women in question are causing no harm with their sexual explorations, ( ever wonder why they are receiving such light sentances?). If they were causing such “wreckage” and disruption, trust me, our ever ready to prosecute when it comes to sex legal system would dish out much tougher penalties. When it comes to destroying the true beauty of sexuality, men are always the culprits, with their aggressive, destructive nature and drive. Who do you think dominates the porn industry? And poures billions of dollars into it each year? Women? Yeah right, women would have no part in it practicaly if they weren't paid to. And I can't blame them. But women are not men, and are not to be feared in the same capacity by any stretch. We can't make women pay for what men are guilty of, a woman can't be poured into the same sexual mold as men. So lets aknowledge that and stop approaching this from such an anal retentive colloaquial standpoint of warped narrow sexual sensibilities based on fear and ignorance ok?
Tossing these women in jail and destroying their lives for being human is not a viable solution to the situation.
Sureley we can engineer a better way of dealing with this aspect of human nature and female sexuality. We sent men to the moon for crying out loud. Lets stop sending women to jail.
Posted by: Brian on January 12, 2006 11:38 PM
The last posting other than mine was in November?….geeze….you guys are a fickle buch aren’t ya’? I guess when the excitement is gone so are you.
For one thing I have been writing Pam while she does her jail time. And my motives were typical guy sexual attraction motives. I live in East Tennessee so I offered to take her out on a date when she gets out if she was interested. I am very attractive guy and I gravitate toward hot slutty type women basicaly who like to party naked. Because basicaly I’m just out for a good time.
After several letters I’m backing off Pamela because she is to nice for me. She is not the sultry seductive, sex kitten ditzy blond abnormal pedaphile child molester that the media has made her out to be. Hey I’m not going to pretend what really happened between her and little Jack horney ok?……maybe something happened maybe not….but I’m here to tell ya’…..this woman is a quality woman……she’s kind, creative, sincere, highly intelligent and sensitive….not the menace to society that everyone is blathering about.
She’s so kind and classy hell I don’t even know how to deal with her I’ve not recipricated with a woman of this quality in years. If I’m going to be her friend I’m going to have to raise my standards. Or she'll give me the boot. ( Understandably )Pam motivates me to be a better man.
Now why would I raise my standards for a rapist? Or a pediphile, or a terror to society? OK? Hello?
I mean seriously people…..think about it….if a good time Charlie like me can see there’s something wrong here where her case and situation is concerned….theres no excuse for you addicted to your own opinions assholes either. So wake up. Don’t give this woman jailtime, give her a better investigation of her case, and give her her life back.
If she's so evil why does she have such a positive effect on those she comes in contact with? I can't say that most people in general thats for damn sure.
Posted by: Brian on January 12, 2006 11:53 PM
Hey Brian...it's really quite simple. She was prosecuted and sent to jail because she broke the law. Society falls apart when there are no standards, despite what your sexually charged brain thinks.
Posted by: Jay on January 22, 2006 05:08 PM
hellfire! i wish i was that lucky and had a teacher like her when i was 14 years old. better to learn from a "teacher"like her than from a neighborhood teenage slut who possibly carrys herpes or some other std, no?
Posted by: tlalmimilolpan on February 7, 2006 07:44 PM
was the boy a black boy? if he was, I think I know him
Posted by: hello on February 16, 2006 10:52 AM
Naw he was white....holy moly if he were black it would have been open season of contraversy.....everyone got excited enough as it is without the quintesential "blacksandblondes" steriotype creating even more reaction from everyone.
Posted by: Brian on February 21, 2006 01:16 PM
Yo Jay.....your right it is quite simple. So tell me something....what do you think about the law against oral sex in Tennessee and other victorian era dark ages dictated states?.....yeah I'm serious....its against the law and if your caught doing it its an automatic 3 year sentance. It doesn't matter if its with your own wife in your own house, your going to jail.
Some standards just aren't reasonable true?
Even you would have to agree.
Posted by: Brian on February 21, 2006 01:28 PM
Its just that you'd think the laws would be a little more gender specific.
I mean last I checked, male and female sexuality is very, very diametricaly opposed as far as invasivness is concerned....I mean seriously, how threatened do attractive women make us feel? I don't know about you but I'm not exactly shaking in my boots over them or worried about dropping my soap in the shower.
I can't say that for men. They need to be locked away. At least even our steamroller cold calculating legal system even begrudgingly aknowledges this by giving these female offenders almost non existent sentances.
Guess my sexualy chrged brain will have to settle for that. You'll have to overlook my enthusiasm somehow I like the idea of hot, sexy, women with low sexual inhibitions running around. Go figure.
Posted by: Brian on February 21, 2006 03:58 PM
what about the lefeve-case? was the boy there black, I don't think so, but he was a good basketball-player. You are right Brian, it would have been a huge controversy.....
Posted by: david on February 27, 2006 07:44 AM
I'm not sure about the Lafave case Dave, I think he was a little white boy as well.....beleive me if he were a bratha' from da; hood we'd all know about it.
It would have been very interesting tho' if he were black....LOL!!!.....I'd fucking love it.
Teenage boys and black men are getting all the good nookie these days. More power to 'em I say.
Posted by: Brian on February 28, 2006 12:18 AM
well Brian, it seems like the teenage boys are getting the fun we haven't had. I wish I had a teacher when I was 14 like Lafave or Turner, one I could have some fun with in bed or in the classroom....It's unbelievable how much it these days happen.
Posted by: vincent on February 28, 2006 07:14 AM
u crazy ass biotch y were u thinking u aint good enough for men ur own age thats sad :(
Posted by: Brian Partlow on March 3, 2006 10:10 AM
Hey everbody, do you all like apples?
I'm a male model, live in East Tennessee, not far from where Pam lives, 'bout 2 hours away. I've been writing her letters for the duration of her short prison sentance. Gotten to know her pretty good. Is she guilty as charged? Well, I never really gave a red rats ass, hey she's beautiful, intelligent and single. Thats all the reason I need to ask her out on a date. And she's actualy considering my offer. All the media and legal hype about her is just background noise to me. I don't know what the big fuss was all about she's just a woman for crying out loud. Everyone acts as tho' she fell from outer space. Whats up with that.Why was this thing with her case so blown out of proportion and hyped up way outta' control? Our society is so hungry for a new slant of sex gossip that they will trample all over themselves to get to it. Pathetic. I'm not concerned with trusting her.....I worry about you people, you know, the giant collective pervert known as the general public. If the American general public were one person, I wouldn't trust him alone with a one-eyed-purple-people-eater in a pink-polka-dot-bikini. So excuse the hell out of me if I see this woman in a nuetral light free from all the crazy opinions and charges railed against her. The bottom line is......I've gotten to know her pretty close, and she's about as respectful, kind, sincere and normal a woman as I've ever met. Beleive me, I've dated enough wacko women and sex crazed nut-bags to know one when I see one. Pam ain't it. So all you out there in hype land who thought they had a sleezy story to masterbate over.... Read it and weep. Looks like you'll have to turn your prurient attentions elswhere.
Pam is now free, free to go and free from all you.
How do you like them apples?
Posted by: Brian on March 3, 2006 12:05 PM
Don't make me laugh Brian, you fucking sicko. You are here blaming everybody here and you don't blame her anything? That shows how stupid you are. About your date with her, dream on, stupid psycho. She is fucked by a CHILD, haha, how pathatic that bitch is.........
Posted by: tessa on March 5, 2006 04:35 AM
What does being fucked by a child have to do with my date with her?
....I don't see the connection you lost me there....calm down.....breath a little slower....and try to think straight when answering my question there flakey girl.
Posted by: Brian on March 5, 2006 06:40 AM
Oh and I was just wondering couple things Tess...when you wrote that were you drunk?....on drugs?....are you mildely retarded?
.....and why do you sound so insanely jealous?
....just curious, 'cause hell honey, you think I'm rad you need to watch it yourself you got it bad.
I'm attracting alot of fruit-flies like you with my aggressive outspokenness on such a contreversial and provacative topic. So your emotionaly based make-no-real-point and nonsensical comment comes as no suprise. I'd argue with you but you've pretty much hung yourself with your own obvious brilliance.
Posted by: Brian on March 6, 2006 12:09 AM
13yrs old now a day is very old for something like that,that teacher is hot
Posted by: ward on April 13, 2006 01:56 AM
Do us all a favor and learn how to spell you fucking retard. Oh, and you'll NEVER get a date with Pam. She doesn't like overgrown boys like you....her taste is for the real "boys".
Posted by: Rick on April 13, 2006 02:15 AM
She needs medical help. She cannot control her sexuality. If the jury is reading thins, please dun send her to jail again but to a women institute where a SURGERY can be performed on her to CURE her.
If you do not fix her desease SHE WILL do it again and again.
Posted by: Bond on April 13, 2006 09:29 AM
Now now, Rick (April 13, 2006 02:15 AM post), in the future please try to go easy on Brother Brian. As is recorded in The Analects, Confucius is purported to have once stated, “It is enough that the language one uses gets the point across.” Though particular expletives might understandably be considered entirely appropriate in response to what one might deem another’s disrespectful or even totally absurd discourse, such reciprocal vulgarity serves only to subtly belie the intelligence of the rebutter. Since I do not know you and therefore cannot make an accurate assessment of your intelligence based on your single submission, I am going to extend to you the benefit of the doubt and assume you are an indeed an intelligent person. Also, since revealing one’s age is not a requirement for contributors to this blog, I feel it most reasonable to also extend this courtesy to any other worthy participant. In addition, Rick, and respectfully, not everyone is a great speller, though becoming a good speller is possible for anyone choosing to put in the requisite effort (e.g., through consistent and focused study, good reading habits, paying attention to something other than how ‘hot’ the teacher is while at school, etc.).
By his own admission – “Beleive me, I've dated enough wacko women and sex crazed nut-bags to know one when I see one.” (March 3, 2006 12:05 PM post) – this person has overtly revealed his character and it would appear that the irresponsible lad in question has without a doubt had his brains f-ed out! Hey, I’m a poet and I didn’t know it! And consider me presumptuous but I would hazard to guess that when this “sexualy charged” self-proclaimed ‘stud’ answers nature’s call, he oozes much more than testosterone-laden machismo, if you get my drift. More specifically, I refer to that burning sensation that cannot be cured with Rolaids (a.k.a. “the itch that won’t go away”). Although without supporting evidence this remains simple conjecture, to be sure, such mementos are not uncommon to those inclined to engage in non-discrete sexual activity with multiple partners, ‘protected’ or otherwise, as anything can happen! A truckload or lifetime of pain in exchange for a morning, afternoon, evening or, perhaps for those ‘less stud-like,’ minute of pleasure – woohoo! What a bargain! Morons only need apply. Nice of him, also, to maintain a detachability from the very real human emotions associated with consensual physical interaction – assuming that his stated multiple interactions were in fact consensual – and his telling lack of compassion for those left in the wake of these sexual encounters; maybe a blow-up doll and a jar of Vaseline would be more appropriate for this ‘stud.’
IMHO only, and regardless of what I might personally deem to be silly admissions, immature or ignorant comments, a narrow-minded viewpoint, conspicuously bad spelling or grammar, any or all complemented by an expected substandard general philosophy, it should nonetheless be apparent to any marginally intelligent, post-pubescent individual – male, female, or otherwise – that anything escaping the face hole of one whose shoe size exceeds their IQ needn’t be taken seriously, and especially one who in response to what could be seen as a very reasonable suggestion would have “buiried” their “size 11 shoe right up your ass.” It continues to amaze me how those lacking the ability to express themselves in a civilized intelligent manner resort to threats of bodily harm when their viewpoints are questioned or rejected. Please see the lyrics for Pea by the RHCP for a better appreciation of my thoughts regarding the violently inclined (respectfully excepting the mentally incapacitated).
In defense of bro B, however, it remains his right to state what he feels, as it remains the right of any individual in a ‘free’ society. He offers in an earlier post (January 12, 2006 11:53 PM) – “I am very attractive guy and I gravitate toward hot slutty type women basicaly who like to party naked. Because basicaly I’m just out for a good time.” – again, by his own admission, his suspect commentary, and an obvious lack of common sense, he has through personal choice sabotaged his credibility while consciously (or not) simultaneously reducing the quality of his life, and by extension the lives of those around him by compromising his education and future in exchange for “a good time.” Sadly, this is very common today, in this age of instant gratification and the connected live-now-pay-later mentality. It also suggests insecurity and immaturity. Anything of true and lasting value can be attained only over time, and through hard work and dedication; and in this instance specifically I refer not to the acquisition of material things or physical gratification but to self-respect and a healthy spirituality acquired through a developed higher state of mental aptitude; we are all capable of bettering ourselves.
This lost lad may eventually through experience, humility, reason, empathy, or objective self-introspection see things in a different light but, then again, maybe not. Again, in spite of what I or anyone else might think, good spellers or otherwise, that remains B’s prerogative. As Judge Judith Scheindlin, a mature, intelligent, professional, law-interpreting woman with an overabundance of common sense and a demonstrated inclination toward compassion and fairness might re-iterate, “Beauty Fades/Dumb Is Forever.” So, when one is no longer ’13, 30, 40 and 6-feet tall and ripped’ or ‘blonde, beautiful, hard-bodied and stylish,’ he/she will have to rely on his/her brain for survival, companionship and friendship, and not on the generosity or pity of shallow individuals or superficial charlatans with money or ulterior motives who might for selfish reasons be willing to pay these ‘hot-bodied’ individuals for their time, company and affections. And you can rest assured that in the instant that cold, hard moment of life-changing realization arrives, it will undoubtedly slam this inevitable reality in their faces with such unforgiving force that they will bitterly rue the day(s) they chose to consciously or otherwise ignore reasonable advice while wasting their educational opportunities. But, of course, at that point it will be too late and they will then be left to ponder the value of “a good time” over “an education,” as well as their wasted lives. Not to say that a well-educated person can’t have a good time, or a fun-loving person can’t be educated, but more so where one aspect is entirely substituted for the sake of the other and not exercised in healthy moderation. Have fun, confident macho man but, for your own benefit, please consider the repercussions of your actions.
We all have personal choices to make in life, some simple and others extremely difficult but, ultimately, we are primarily responsible for where we end up (free or incarcerated, rich or poor, educated or ignorant). Furthermore, we must by virtue of possessing a God-given free will – which affords us complete control over our personal thoughts and actions – be mature enough to, at a very minimum, and logically, accept at least some responsibility for our self-attained ‘destiny.’ Peace, good health, and true happiness to all.
Post-note to Brian: Brother, you are setting yourself up for ridicule through many of your outrageous comments regardless of existing personal convictions based on your past experiences. Judging from several of your disjointed and insult-laden rebuttals, you fail to extend even a modicum of appreciation for the views of others. IMO some of your statements set a very bad example for young impressionable male readers. I am of the assumption that you may be partly innocent and your displayed ignorance in some areas is possibly a byproduct of an unhappy childhood, perhaps combined with a difficult or non-nurturing environment and dissatisfaction with your station in life. Hypothetically speaking, Brian, if someone were to have approached you when you were “13 years old and 6 feet tall and ripped” as you have claimed, and suggested to you (with good intent and to your obvious benefit) that engaging in illegal sexual activity with an adult harboring a pedophilic bent was not the greatest idea, responding by threatening to commit violence on their person would not only have been morally and legally wrong but downright self-destructive and undeniably idiotic. You would be well advised to engage in activities that support and enhance your personal constitution, as opposed to otherwise; attempting to justify such behaviour in a forum visited by impressionable youngsters further yet perpetuates such idiocy. I would hope that the principles of any mature and thoughtful representative of our gender would be guided by something other than their reproductive anatomy. “Even you would have to agree.” Good luck to you, my friend.
P.S.: In the event that anyone might not have figured out my position on the initial issue of debate in this forum I will first apologize for going off on this mildly-related but, to me, necessary tangent and will now hereby state emphatically and for the record that I find such sexual association – whether it be adult female-young boy, adult male-young girl, adult male-young boy, adult female-young girl – absolutely and incontrovertibly unacceptable. The vast majority of human beings by physiological nature are not emotionally mature until age 25, so assuming that any teen, and especially a young teen, might entirely bypass the potential for irreparable harm produced by such a liaison would be grossly naive. Duh! It is true that we ‘all make mistakes’ and that bad things indeed ‘happen’ and that, through an extension of sincere remorse we should be forgiven for our transgressions – but a lack of reasonable foresight in initiating or perpetuating such deviant activity, and particularly as a result of reoccurring errors in judgment, does without a doubt fail to qualify as a legitimate ‘excuse’ for said behaviour and, therefore, must demand accountability and atonement by the perpetrator. Regardless of how many immature adults or teenaged lads or gals who, naturally, at their age might consider such a ‘fantasy’ interaction to be okay or cool, in the real world of educated, reasonable and mature human beings, this type of behaviour is – and has under stringent scrutiny and consideration over time, and for determined and just cause been designated – a criminal offense. Hence, any adult engaging in similar activities should and will eventually be held accountable, regardless of what any ‘lucky’ young lad or lady might feel. (IMO :))
As I have, presumably, used more than enough space to submit these comments, please consider this sole submission complete. I may out of interest read and consider any responses following this post, but I will not be contributing further to the discussion. Thank you for your time, and peace to all. Ricardo.
Posted by: Ricardo on April 13, 2006 07:37 PM
Yeah Rick....go easy on me I'm eating my words right now....choking on them in fact....gagging on them actualy....LOL !!!!
....yeah Pam really screwed up this time didn't she....never saw that coming...I mean I date nutty women all the time ( show me a woman that isn't a little nuts, right? ) and I was just trying to be nice to her, encourage her to get her life back and rebuilt, and of course you know, wanted to also boink her in the process, but uh....turns out Rick was right....I get dumped for a 15 year old....that uh...feels wierd. My taste in women needs as much refinement as my spelling....LOL !!!....obviously.
Anyway, I don't really care about getting dissed by her hell I have other gal-pals....but I am pissed at her for being so stupid and self-destructive like that. She can kiss me goodbye she's on her own, she needs help beyond my scope... I'm outta' here.
Posted by: Brian on April 14, 2006 09:05 AM
Your comments are uncanny and seductive. You sure your name isn't "Lestat" ?....LOL !!!
....no man I'm serious that was outstanding, there is no way I could even recipricate something even remotely resembling a rebuttal to that...you pretty much sliced-and-diced me there. A good warrior knows when to take a lesson and retreat.
.....to the hills I go.....
Posted by: Brian on April 14, 2006 09:23 AM
I'll start by saying that there are many interesting opinions on this. Tim had an interesting answer to a very spiritual woman which i liked. And although it hurt me i have to admit both were right. Well if you didnt get to read all of the opinions don't mind this first paragraph ill start from the begining.
Ok well if you all follow the news she made a myspace account and now shes in big trouble. Second of all, once i saw her picture i couldnt believe my eyes!!! She is very beatiful person. And to be honest if its true that she saw her husband in the kid she "raped" then i think she is partially mental. No i will be very honest with everyone! I lost my virginity when i was 15... it was mainly peer pressue... so i did not finish... it messed with my mind so much, because so much was expected from me... and till day i can not finish while having sex, and i am hoping that will be changed. Now back to the case, if the boy was 13 then yes it is hard to say whether he should take some responsibility! BUT i do not think if he didnt want this he would of been able to achieve it. And second of all when i was 13 i didnt know what sex was!!! I had seen it... but i didnt understand why it was done. Wait it gets better... i am european, where i am from porn is on after 11 at night and so anyone can watch it, and on numerous occasions have i seen sex as early as 6 years of age. And the kid was 13 F##@%$G his teacher!!! I do not understand why would she be in trouble. I have slept with a 22 year old girl and a 24 year old girl and im not 18!! SO WHAT IS THE BIG DEAL? As someone said, ppl b4 time got married as early as 13... well that still goes on today my friends, i have seen Gypsies get married at age of 13 and yes they are girls that are basicly sold for a sheep! And if was a lawyer... i would have wanted to defend this woman! I believe so hard that i am doubting what i want to become :) i think after the 3 hours i have read on this case trying to make a good defense i have not yet come up with anything so good to make me wanna do it. But i did enjoy reading the hunderd or so comments! And leigh thanks for sharin... it was important for me to hear from a friend of hers! Thank you!
Posted by: Angel on April 16, 2006 05:18 AM
Hey ricardo can i see some more of your works? What you wrote up there is a really good piece! My email is agrublev at gmail dot com so if you would be so kind write me :)
Posted by: Angel G on April 16, 2006 05:44 AM
Interesting comment there Angel....we americans are a little more colloquial ( that means victorian era anal retentive when it comes to sex, in case your wondering ), the only thing american society baisicaly knows what to do with sexuality is either sell it....or suppress it....when we are not busy exploiting it for money....we are busy condemning the very fabric of it. Americans in general understand human sexuality very little, female sexuality least of all, and are very conflicted and confused....and through the media we have sent those messages not only to everyone but to our more impressionable youth. As a result we have moral kayoss...and a screwed up value system and proirity list.
We say we are protecting our youth when we brutaly destroy and prosecute women like Pamela Rogers Turner....yet at the same time we allow and encourage a multi-billion dollar porn indusrty here that gets no resistance from the legal system, to proliferate and continue its ease of availability to any child that can press a computer key. I think that it might have something to do with the fact that women are alot easier to kick and bulley around than a billion dollar industry that can fight back and lobby our congress into the ground like the tobacco and pharmacutical industries do. So lone, rather harmless, otherwise innocent women are used as scapegoats instead. I'm not agreeing with what these female teachers do its a little over the top no matter how you slice it....but by the same token picking on and brutalizing these women instead of getting to the core of the problem doesn't impress me either. If our legal system would go after porn with the same aggression,media frenzy and consistency, we'd banish it inside a year. And send the porn industy leaders running for the sewers and dark shadows from where they came, scared shitless. Our government has more than enough power and resources to do that. But then again....they could shut down alot of harmful industries and interests as well couldn't they.
If I had a 13 year old son, who like me was very developed at that age, I'd rather he be exposed to the embrace of a woman in his early manhood instead of the dark specter of pornography and the debilitating sexual habits and perceptions of women that would result and follow. Porn has nothing to do with real human sexual expereinces and dynamics, its actualy a poor sick portrayal of human sexuality and blatant disregard and disrespect of women and their needs. And I'd feel much more comfortable catching him in the arms of a beautiful intelligent woman than mind-fucked by pornographic influences.
But no....we americans continue on our path of ignorance and stupidity of human sexuality and relationships....a 13 year old girl in our warped society qualifies to be a mother, we train people how to flip hamburgers more than we train individuals in sexuality, or how to be husbands and wives, to learn this stuff in this country one must put forth extraordinary initiative and efforts...for we teach none of this stuff in our educational institutions, and what token pittance we do teach, so called sex education, is of such a clinical, robotic, of no practical or applicable value in its nature that it does more to add to the kayoss and confusion that aready exists here than to clear matters up.
So you see Angel....in a society like ours its no small wonder we have such strange laws governing our sexuality, .....we encourage our youth to have sex freely with one another...hey guess what....its legal....we parade little Britney Spears around on stage at 14 practicaly naked and festering hardcore sexual overtones....hmmm....what was our youth and society in general supposed to do with that little message? I never heard one person complain about that perverted overt exploitation of her back then....everyone thought it was "cute"....really now....well what happened to our obsession to protect our youth there? When there is money to be made or it doesn't threaten our colloquial based insecure warped overcompensentory opinions then I guess that makes it ok.
Sex between female's over 20 and males in the young manhood of their teens is pretty intense stuff.....like crack cocaine.... I would know..... I've expreinced it(both actualy)....its been deemed by our society as taboo....a forbidden pleasure.....and for good reason. A young man of 13 having sex with a woman vs having sex with another girl of 13 is a totaly different expereince and matter. A 13 year old boy having sex with a 13 year old girl is nowhere as intense or strangely exquisite when compared to sex with a woman.....strictly no contest. When your a teenaged boy, sex with a woman is like a drug. And just like a drug, the heightened first time expereince of sex beyond what is normal can sometimes mess with a young man's mind in a negative way should he not have the emotional constitution to deal with such a sudden intense, provocative pleasurable expereince. Most young men in their teens however are not that vulnerable sexualy, And they eat it up like candy, I damn sure wasn't (vulnerable) and I did (eat it like candy)....but then again some are of weaker constitution, and to be sexualized that early would not serve them well mentaly and emotionaly....and thats reason enough to take the moral high ground....even if its just to protect the weaker few. And, like Ricardo, I have to cast my vote in favor of protecting the potentialy weak.
Besides, these activities between women and younger men are having wierd repercussions, have you noticed?...I mean now females over 20 are no longer to be trusted by anyone with teenage boys...its bizzare...but now a reality....it used to be that men were the stinkers who couldn't reliably control their biological urges....now women have been thrown into the same negative reputational cess-pool....oh I'm sure women are just thrilled with that. Thats just another societal pressure they gotta' deal with now.
And teachers....wow....as if they aren't overworked and underpaid enough, now they have to deal with this added burden and carry it....not good....not fair to them. Hell they are some of the most important people in our society and are not paid a fraction of what they are worth or deal with and this is how we thank them....more scandals....more precautions and restrictions against them. Making an impossible job even more so. Its stuff like this that caved the powerful Roman empire of old in. And ours is not far behind if we don't make some changes.
Now the reason why such huge nuclear social reactions are occuring over this case with Pamela and her sexual choices, activities and obsessions with her young lover are multi-faceted. Number one is that everyone is fascinated with why such attractive women .....who incedentaly.....can have any man over 20 they want with no effort....insist on sexual persuit of young men not even old enough to drive yet despite the dangers and obstacals. Its amazing the drive, intiative and desire they display, a display of sexual passion and "damn the torpedoes" that very few men over 20 ever get the honor of enjoying and expereincing from women of her attractiveness. So why?....what is the amazing attraction going on here? Well....that is what everyone would like to know....hence the astronomical attention that the media is giving this subject matter and these female teacher male student sex cases and scandals. If one can explain to our ignorant male dominated society the unpredictable nature of female sexuality in clear concise terms...you'd be an overnight billionare.
I'm not going to make that attempt here....lest I go broke...LOL !!!!.....maybe Ricardo can give it a shot....but me...I plead ignorance.
I have been studying Pamela and her other prototypes for some time...and have written a thesis on it...if you'd like to check it out and comment feel free...I've dug up some interesting answers as to why they "do it". And what most women think and feel about the matter....the reality of whats on most modern women's mind's sexualy these days is astonoshing....truly. As you'll see from my expose'.
Ricardo....I'd like you to read it as well. I need someone of your intelligence to give me input on it. Anyone else is welcome as well. Here is the link:
You'll find my Email on the link as well....but feel free to comment in the blog instead. Thanks
Posted by: Brian on April 17, 2006 01:52 AM
For all you people thinking hey this is cool....try to reverse this....How would you feel about a 27 year old male teacher having sex with a 13 year old girl? Is that still cool and everyones fantasy? Ha ...Think not!
Posted by: Steve on April 28, 2006 06:28 AM
Well, here is a better way to think about it. Reverse it and think of a 13 year old girl, but think of it as your daughter and a 27 year old teacher.
Now, as we all know you would want that 27 year old male teacher punished! So, now think of this as your 13 year old son, you would still want something done!
This is not cool Steve it is rather disguisting!
Posted by: old fashioned on May 1, 2006 09:25 PM
Hey Old Fashioned....there you are....so why don't you email me? Why does everyone run from my Email like household chores?...I'm not gonna' bite....I'm not the terminater...I may look like him but ....why heck....I'm just a big ol'e teddy bear....."ah'll be bawck"....
Posted by: Brian on May 2, 2006 01:02 AM
yo im going to knoxville tennesse im only 14 anyone got her e-mail im gonna bang the bottom outta that
Posted by: lou on May 4, 2006 09:13 AM
sorry, don't think I am avoiding you, I have not been on the computer since the 1st. I am dealing with some sort of eye infection from my contacts. : (
I will be emailing you back soon though.
Posted by: old fashioned on May 7, 2006 07:04 AM
Oh hey no problemo O.F......get that eye infection taken care of thats nothing to mess around with....yeah we all have lives its hard to get online as much as I'd like to....haven't checked my emial in like a week myself, I'll catch ya' around the corner bro....
Posted by: Brian on May 8, 2006 10:35 PM
Wow... Lucky bastard, hot blonde school teacher, at 13. If only I had a hot 28 year old teacher, I'd hit it too. If I was the kid, I'd hit it for as long as I could.
Posted by: Alex on May 8, 2006 11:00 PM
SHE IS FUCKING HOT !!!! TEACH ME WOMAN !!!
Posted by: bob cocklick on May 11, 2006 05:34 PM
Young 14 yr old boys do not get scard for life by having sex with his 28 yr old hot teacher.This black and white blanket law is bull shit.Cheers to the kid..he has sweet memories and bragging rights for life.Jeers to all you fuckers ruining this womans life over your bleading heart opinionated morals.
Posted by: Bill on May 11, 2006 07:29 PM
hey i think the father is gay and probably the mother said to press charges on her what the fuck hey not alot of kids get those chances. what is the first thing a father tells his kid when he is young wait till u have a gf and get a piece of that pie so wuz up with that the kid shouldve never said anything in the first place. she shouldve learned her lesson the first time though but what can u say he was too young hey when i was 15 i had a 33 yr old women f*** my brains out and i luved it she though me things that i couldnt imagine at that time so hey not everyone is the same ive always luved girls though and i am pretty queit so as i was saying how come there are these girls who go out with these old as dudes theyre like 50 and shit and these women like 20 something for instance tom cruise and this other girl from dawsons creek oh shes 20 something which is over the age and the law wow he is old enough to be her grandfather what the hell this country is crazy but hey what can we do oh... look at donald trump thats another example
that guy has had alot of younger women in his life so what do u say to that i think this law about the age has got to go i dont think the kid said no at anymoment i would be too nerovous if it wouldve been me and if it was my first hey thats a reaction u get when its ur first so if the kid hasnt said anything bad regarding her she shouldnt go to jail hey she wants him what about if he wants her maybe thats her soulmate who knows people so all u women who think this is sick get a life stay out of the womens business if u r married to a lil d*** man oh well but
thats u and u chose him same thing with her let her be she wants him end of discussion thank you . im out .
Posted by: jose on May 12, 2006 02:03 AM
Hey Bill.....yeah I gotta' admit your comment is hard to argue against....hell I had the same thing happen to me at that age with an older woman ( several actualy ) and I have nothing but fond memories of it today....so go figure....but it appears our godfathers in washington don't feel as cozy with the idea, and its confusing to our youth....but you do make a good point....people tend to overlook gender differences in favor of prudish cultural influences. Odd but true. To bad people can't get a grip.
The problem is...some young men that age can handle this sort of thing happening to them.....some can't.....I guess our laws are to protect the "can'ts". But I do agree with you most CAN handle it.....and would like to !!!!
Posted by: Brian on May 12, 2006 03:14 AM
damm hes lucky. id eat dat pussy up too. good job boy. oh and im 13 too and i have had sex with a 26 year old mother. and shes finer than a mother fucker. well the kid knew what he was doing or he wouldnt have done it. listen im the same age as him so i no whats goin on. im the same way. id fuck my teacher too cuz their HOT at my school. but anyways hes a teenager and he is very horny its just something about all teenagers. maybe not the older teenagers but the younger ones about13 or 14. hes just very horny and wanted some pussy no matter whos it was.. id've fucked that bitch too. he did what he thot was right and thats that. she shouldnt have got 100 yrs either. she shouldnt have got in trouble at all. if a women likes a kid she should be with him and have sex whenever they want as long as its what both the child and the adult want but if the kid doesnt want to then i see why they should get in trouble but they should just be left alone. right now im tryin to get this other 30yr old to have sex with me and im almost possitive that she will say yes... GO GET 'EM BOY. peace out
Posted by: b-rad on May 25, 2006 10:47 PM
To be honest i am thirteen and i have dreamed of having sex! Heck dreamed of it, i have came really close to it! I have been to second base! The kid is lucky! If a hot male teacher were to want to sleep with me i would definetly say yes! Adaults don't understand it! When they were a kid they didn't have this much sex going around! all i am sayin is i would have done it too!
Posted by: Hannah on June 8, 2006 11:15 PM
Women get off easy if it was a man they would have given him the maxium sentence. I just telling u that our justice system on some cases is sexist
Posted by: Pissed of Puerto Rican on June 12, 2006 12:04 AM
Yo B-Rad.....don't get these women in trouble with the law there stud....we all know that women over 20 are strongly sexualy intrigued by young men your age, but that is no reason to brag so play it cool with that big mouth man if you have any respect for these women at all.
Hey Hannah.....be pateint little lady your day will come soon enough....easy does it.
Posted by: Brian on June 18, 2006 07:22 PM
Gimme Gimme Gimme that Woman!!!!!
Posted by: Shark on July 15, 2006 01:09 AM
This is bullshit.At 13 all boys do is think about woman & sex..they can't help thier hormones...why should SHE be punished for something HE enjoyed and will probably brag about the rest of his adult life? Yes, being the adult she should have known where to draw the line but to punish her for rape when the kid was enjoying it or why else would it have happend multiple times? Okay when a man or a woman rapes a child who is 5 years old thats another story...thats someone who needs to be locked up for life! I'm not saying that a 13 year old boy can't get raped by a woman but if he truly felt violated why didn't he tell someone after the first incident? I'm a a victim of rape myself and there is nothing more I hate than a child molester/rapist/pedophile but come on now we are living in a country that is sex driven by the media, ect....and this whole case is stupid.... what we need to do is get the REAL predators off the street!!!
Posted by: wasp on July 16, 2006 12:06 AM
I'm from the UK. We had a very similar (identical apart from the boy was 14) case not too long ago, in which the female teacher was sacked and named and shamed by the media (media involvment is pretty harsh considering both parties consented)! The judge said a jail sentence would serve no purpose, and I believe that he was right! I believe it should be more serious (but not anything on the scale of this case!) when its a male teacher and a female student (and I'm male by the way), because females are more vulnerable, I could explain why, but I'll just say it has something to do with less testosterone and more estrogen (anyone who wants to can research these things). A male at thirteen is more impressionable and for a teacher to take advantage of him at that age should mean that it is met with a stiff penalty indeed! but a jail sentence is completely outrageous! Her young life is flushed down the toilette; but did her actions with the boy have the same affect on his life, if not then the sentence doesn’t make any sense! Is that really equal and fair justice?
Posted by: geoff on October 22, 2006 05:57 PM
she iz so sexy let her go age dont matter if the kid want it to have sex let them ok a man iz a man anywhere he stand so im 15 dating a 20 year old gurl look at that
Posted by: benji on October 30, 2006 11:20 PM
IDK wat all u is thinking if you dont think she is hot. I mean common boys at 13, 14, 15 having raging hormones so its unlikely that he tried to run away as she was pulling down his pants. So you can't blame ALL of it on her, although it is pretty pathetic for her and her looks to be having sex wuth a 13 year old i mean if she wanted some *$@% then she should be seeing me i mena i'm only 2 years older than the boy she raped
Posted by: James on December 5, 2006 08:12 AM
God she's hot. She should get a bleeding award for what she's done. When I was 12 I used to fantasise about getting head from hot women in their 20s and thirties. This kid is lucky. I don't see a victim here. Also, I read in a Marshall Cavendish publication called "Doctor's Answers," published as a multi-part magazine, each volume release weekly that there wasn't an age of consent in Britain for males. That was in the 70s (the magazines were my mum's) and I think it has changed now, but that makes sense to me. The woman shouldn't be punished if the boy is aroused. OK, so a woman who has sex with an 14 year old boy is probably a paedophile (unless the boy was very physically developed for his age) but there is still no victim. When I was in year 9, we had a hot teacher who plenty of the boys would have jumped at the chance to sleep with. I mean, this is ridiculous.
Posted by: Ash on December 21, 2006 10:35 PM
Come on people!!! I have a son,he is 6'2" and weighs 265 lbs.,the public thinks he is 22.
Posted by: steve on January 12, 2007 01:48 AM
Posted by: john on January 13, 2007 04:24 PM
Hell I wish i had a teacher like that at 13. I would do her. At that age all boys think about is sex. I think the kid opened his mouth to his parents and thats were he went wrong! I would brag up and down to all of my friends
and another thing what in the hell was she doing living with this boy!
Posted by: matt on January 18, 2007 01:47 AM
All you bible thumping-PTA-soccer mom-Broke-back pieces of shit that are steering this Politically Correct nation of ours toward the end of days would better serve society by crawling into a hole & slitting your own throats. Verbatim; You cannot fathom the biological nature that of human, or connect and learn from that, our “civil” history. Narrowly do you scope your meticulous attention on your infinitesimal PC worlds, blatantly shunning signs of the past and present, Proclaiming all are flawed, the politician is righteous. Hail to him and his laws that govern my life on this great land. Your ignorance will be our undoing…
BTW/ Just Law Dictates
her 6mo probation MAX
him 6mo detention MAX
Posted by: The Messenger on March 9, 2007 12:38 AM
I don’t understand what all the commotion is; all I read about is what if the sexes were reversed. In the end of the day a female cannot force sex on a conscious male. If I ever saw the kid I would probably give him a high five or beat him up out of pure jealously. He is most definitely the most popular kid at school and when he becomes older he's most likely to become a stud. I agree that if it was an older male and younger female then it’s wrong. The young female would feel in love and thinks with her heart and the young male would also feel in love but thinks with his penis. All in all, iam jealous of the kid!
Posted by: Ben on March 14, 2007 02:37 AM
I am 40 and don't get laid much. Why can't I find a loose woman like her.
Posted by: Ric on April 16, 2007 06:33 PM
im a rape victim and im too scard to tell the police meaning my aunt will some one plz help me
Posted by: rachel on April 18, 2007 02:27 PM
Props to Hannah...I TOTALLY agree with you Hannah. If I had my Math teacher came on to me, I'd get with him in a second! Grown-ups don't understand it's not 1950 anymore, and opinions like yours scares them to death (which is ridiculous)!
Posted by: Lexi on August 25, 2007 05:01 PM
OK ..ALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL u guys and chikcs r gay
fuck oath man
if a hot teacher cracked onto me wen i was 13 id be like hell fuck yer
man id let that teacher ride me fuck crazy..as many times as she wants
shes fucking hot
tit fucking her
fuck oath bro
Posted by: lewis hell yer on September 8, 2007 12:14 PM
Judging from some of these comments, it's evident we live in a sick society. Of course any thirteen year old kid, or any teenager, would 'jump' at the chance to be with her or any teacher for the matter. That's exactly why minors can't consent. And regardless whether or not this woman or any or the recent female teachers have had a history of sexual abuse while in their youth, they are now grown and certainly should be held accountable for their actions. It's my view that they're just as dangerous as their male counterparts regardless of how 'hot' they are. Some of the men who commented here should be ashame of themselves. Had it been a male teacher molesting a young girl they'd be crying for his blood. When it comes to preying on our children there's no difference.
Posted by: BeBeau on October 20, 2007 10:13 PM
wow...don't know why all these people getting all angry and stuff. First of all, the kid was what, 14, years old, so he definitely knew what he was doing, if they are gonna get punished, they BOTH should get punished then, second, imo, nobody should really get punished, after all, they both consented to it, i really doubt the boy was like "ahhh! stay away," and third, i don't see how this experience will cause the boy problems in the future, if he does have problems, hes gay, how the hell is sleeping with a teacher( a hot ass one on top of that) bad? like many others said, hell probably be bragging to his friends, i know i would have, and lastly, i don't see why people always get freaked out after what i've said, that boy was definitely not too young, girls and guys used to get married and had sex REALLY young in the past, so believe me, that guy knew what he was doing and so did his teacher, and i would have considered it a great learning experience
Posted by: Manuel on July 17, 2008 07:18 PM
Damn It !!!!! Where were all these hot, sexy, horny teachers when I went to high school ? I wish I had a teacher like Pamela Rodgers. She truly makes learning fun. I would have had sex with her too for sure. That kid is the luckiest S.O.B. on Earth. ;-)
Posted by: MLJohnson2008 on September 21, 2008 04:48 PM
I know the guy that slept with pam and trust me it was not all here...he would plan to meet here all the time so they could have sex but the first time he didnt know that thats what was gonna happen she I M ed him and said they were gonna "mess around" and he didnt know that meant sex so when she started doing everything and whipping everything out he was just like omg i cant believe this is real life but trust me he loved it he wasnt like a normal 13 year old all his friends were older he was already smoking weed and doing shit with girls..i promise you he didnt get raped but he will make jokes like if we say f you man you have to do this he will be like guys i got raped! leave me alone lol its really funny but sucks for pam...oh well no body likes her
Posted by: acat on August 28, 2010 04:57 PM
People stop acting like he got raped so stupid he is one of my best friends and trust me he didnt get raped she is just a creeper they still talked and she still sent him videos after they got caught and she still wanted to be with him and he was already sleeping with some other girl she is crazy and apparently she wasnt even good in bed
Posted by: acat on August 28, 2010 05:04 PM