I am receiving many messages of concern that they don't believe that the story of the Los Zetas seizing multiple ranches in Laredo, Texas is true. They keep questioning the confirmation. They question why there are no visuals or pictures. "Where is the video!" they scream. So I will address those issues in this post.
First, let me clarify that I was also skeptical of the story when I initially heard word. It is certainly not because there haven't been armed intrusions into the United States before from Mexico. There have been a ton in the last decade, but there have not been any where they would hold onto a position. They usually leave after a standoff or upon discovery.
The situation has become different in Nuevo Laredo, Mexico over the last few days. There have been gun-battles through the streets and fragmentation grenades used as the government of Mexico tries to run the Los Zetas out of their stronghold there. People died and were wounded. The city was on lockdown and the US government issued warnings to US citizens in the area to remain indoors. With our lack of border security and porous borders, it is not beneath my intellect to believe that the Los Zetas could be forced into a retreat into US territory and attempt to seize a hideout.
Not only that, but "first contact" with me of the initial story was from none other than Jeff Schwilk, founder of the San Diego Minutemen, who had a confirmed source in the area of Laredo. With this in mind I decided to go with the story, but to remain cautious. I clearly stated on the story that it was not 100% confirmed. It remained that way all night.
I put out my feelers throughout the night to try and collect information and other credible sources to confirm the occupation of ranches in Laredo. I did not receive actual confirmation until this morning when I got word that Kimberly Dvorak of the Examiner had made multiple confirmations within the Laredo Police Department. Up until this point the story had not spread wide. There was no reason for the Laredo Police Department to crack down hard and keep things truly blacked out as there was no heavy interest from media.
However, upon that second confirmation and her running her story "Los Zetas drug cartel seizes 2 U.S. ranches in Texas" the story to me at that point was 100% confirmed. I changed my story to reflect that and released it to the world - spreading it wide. It has since gone viral.
(Since then I have learned Kim has no less than three sources inside law enforcement. Kim was also involved in the Acorn investigation with Breitbart, so she's no whipper snapper.)
Since that time many journalists have tried to get information from law enforcement in the area. With the flood of calls to the Laredo Police Department, others are now starting to receive dodgy kind of answers to their questions. This leads me to believe that there may indeed be a bona-fide news blackout as they try to resolve the situation.
We do have people looking into it and digging further; other things behind the scenes are going on for additional confirmation other than the current sources.
The question remains, what is a news blackout and why would it occur?
A news blackout is basically an order from the top down to disavow any knowledge of a situation or story. Deflect, disavow and deny. There are many reasons for this. They range from the legitimate tactical reasoning to the downright nefarious "cover up" reasoning.
Tactical reasoning is an easy one. It is so they can perform their duties with minimal intrusion. That one is very simple to understand.
Let us analyze the nefarious reasons though just for the heck of it shall we?
1. This would make the Obama Administration look horrible. Their lack of security along the border is well known. A breech of national security this large would create a firestorm of anger at the administration. Their aims to pass an amnesty for illegal aliens would be shot to pieces and all of their arguments against building true security in the form of a fence would go down with it. This would have ramifications in the upcoming November elections for congress.
2. There is currently a gubernatorial race going on in Texas. The current sitting governor, Rick Perry, is looked at as being weak on immigration. He stood up for in-state tuition for illegal aliens and has done little to crack down - or push for a crackdown - on illegal immigration in his state. This would destroy his "tough guy" and "tough on crime image".
3. Local congressional races in Texas. As everyone knows all of the members of The House are up for election. Some of those are open borders supporters. This breach of security would show that their continued fight against closing down the border in any way is flawed logic (as if it took this story to actually show that - the same story could happen again tomorrow).
4. Local sheriffs and elected officials could be made to look bad. There could have been mistakes made during operations that they don't want revealed. Or they could have not been properly prepared for them and this intrusion showed their incompetence.
5. Businesses. It's no secret that some agriculture and other businesses use low-skilled illegal alien labor to operate. They do this to avoid taxes so that they can make a hefty profit and avoid all of the hassles of insurance and the like. Strong business interests and wealthy individuals with influence could bring their power to bear down and cover things up to keep their cheap labor flowing.
6. General corruption. Some people in our government are beholden to or on the take from the cartels, Los Zetas or the Mexican government itself. After all, we seem to hear stories daily of someone or another being busted for being on the take. Imagine how many actually are on the take and just haven't been discovered.
Those are most of the nefarious reasons that I can think off of the top of my head as to why it would be covered up or blacked out.
I don't truly believe any of them.
Let me make that entirely clear.
I don't truly believe any of them.
I believe there is a blackout because local law enforcement and the Border Patrol are waiting for backup and authorization from the Federal Government to make any moves. Something like this does have cross border and international impacts. Things like that generally are handled by the federal government, as that is the primary reason we have a federal government in the first place.
The situation is relatively young and if they have the Los Zetas contained in one spot, there really is no reason to go all cowboy and charge into an unknown situation.
This sums up the current state of the situation and the path of how the story broke. I have no other knowledge at this time that is not contained here. We will find out soon the extent of this situation as it develops further. As I stated in the article - and it still remains - we don't know if it's only several members or a squad.
The story is still developing and I'll report more as I find out.
It should be easy enough to confirm by just driving out there. If there is a large law enforcement operation, you would likely be blocked from entering the area. Pretty easy and simple indication that there is a problem of some sort.
Thanks for the updates, I've been worried and confused about what is actually going on. I have my doubts about THIS government doing its job, however, so I hope that the states are ready to step in with National Guard, etc. if need be. I'm sure they are. :)
Patriots time to rally!! I just got off the phone with the Field Supervisor in the Laredo Police Department!! I offered our services to help the with the cartel invasion and we were not turned down!! Its now confirmed this is really going down!! The field Supervisor told me its real bad, worse than what we are hearing about and they are getting very overwhelmed!! They have my number and are getting with other officials and may need our help!! We need patriots on stand by to assist the police department!! Please call me at 830-591-3177 if you can assist!!
The link will tell you no traffic information is available but if you zoom in West of Laredo, you can find the road. It cuts South toward the border.
So I have been able to verify that there is such a road.
Posted by: crosspatch on July 24, 2010 08:27 PM
Thank you for posting the information. I would like to make one small suggestion. Going cowboy or cowboy mentality is always used in a negative fashion. Perhaps those of you who want to toss the term around like that should go work on a ranch for a while and figure out what it means to be a cowboy and quit using it as an insult.
Posted by: JMW on July 24, 2010 08:39 PM
story is FALSE... I live in the area questioned and the is NOTHING going on..
I would drive out there if I was still in the area and check out if the roads are closed around the area or not rather than take the word of people who may or may not be telling the truth as far as administrative types go? And I would take a camcorder or something with me as well, even a cellphone cam would do?
Posted by: Antilibturd on July 24, 2010 08:45 PM
Starting to smell like a hoax.
Posted by: crosspatch on July 24, 2010 08:49 PM
Starting to smell like a hoax.
*sniff* *sniff* I don't smell anything.
As far as a hoax, that is a willfully done falsity. Why would I sacrifice my 8 year old website and any benefit I can provide the issue I have dedicated my life to on a fake story?
As for the cowboy comment, no offense was intended, my effort at wit failed in this case.
As for "A Laredo Resident", they left no website, no email address for themselves... anyone could state that.
There are many pro-illegal and open-borders people who visit this site and call me racist on a daily basis for wanting our laws enforced.
As far as the "true media" covering this where are they? I have seen no reports from the true media other than them calling the Police Department and receiving a line like "we do not confirm this"... note they do not deny it either.
"True media" - as you call them - would drive their ass out there with a video camera. At least we have sources, they have nothing but a typical statement from a department.
Why would several different law enforcement agencies risk their credibility? This is something that is very easily confirmed ... simply drive out there. It would take 15 minutes.
There would be reports coming from a lot more sources than just this one.
So far this story emanates from one single source ... this website. Why should we believe someone sitting at their computer typing over multiple law enforcement agencies in that jurisdiction?
If this was actually happening, the road would be closed. So far it doesn't look like it is. There would be multiple reports from multiple private citizens on blogs everywhere, there aren't.
There is no general warning to the public to stay away from Minerales Annex Road issued from any law enforcement agency that I can find.
The idea that several separate law enforcement agencies can coordinate a coverup is possible, but fairly far-fetched.
Posted by: crosspatch on July 24, 2010 09:34 PM
Nada. Zip. KGNS-TV, which has a transmitter in the "invaded ranch" area, sent a crew to investigate. Nada. Along the way they spoke to a SWAT team member of the sheriff's department. This deputy was drinking coffee and chatting it up in a parking lot and assured KGNS that if there was a stand-off he'd be in on it.
If this is an attempt at a hoax then it went off badly: KGNS just said they've been "flooded with calls from around the country, not locals" (which tells you something). I asked the reporteress what constituted a flood and she said "Twenty".
Posted by: Everett Mann on July 24, 2010 09:41 PM
I called my local NBC shop in Dallas and they confirm that this is real.
Posted by: David on July 24, 2010 10:00 PM
"As for "A Laredo Resident", they left no website, no email address for themselves... anyone could state that."
Just as any Joe blow blogger can post a story with anonymous credible sources
"As far as the "true media" covering this where are they?"
as for my email.. as an admin you should be able to see it...
I think we probably need to hear from Dvorak and/or Digger on this about now, perhaps to man-up and admit they were snookered.
This is probably a case of air-frame testing. Bill Cooper used to talk about it and it's in "Silent Weapons for Quiet Wars". You send a little shock through a system and record the data. The shock was a (most likely) bogus news story and the system was the online patriot/militia community. Follow the contacts back to Dvorak and Digger and then their "sources" and you'll solve your whodunnit.
Posted by: Everett Mann on July 24, 2010 10:32 PM
OK HERE IS THE UPDATE AS OF 1627 JULY 25:
CALLED THIS NUMBER 956-795-2800
WAS TOLD TO ASK FOR JOE BAEZALL was told he was a field agent, turns out he is their Public Relations liason.
I GOT A HOLD OF SARGENT PEREZ (FEMALE) SHE SAID THAT THIS LOCATION, THE SUPPOSED LOCATION FOR THE INCIDENT, WAS OUTSIDE OF THEIR JURISDICTION AND THAT EVERYTHING IN LAREDO PROPER WAS NORMAL.
SHE GAVE ME THIS NUMBER:
956-523-4408, THIS IS TO THE WEBB COUNTY SHERIFF'S DISPATCH OFFICE, I SPOKE TO A DEPUTY TIJERA (FEMALE ALSO) * ahem just making the note so if anyone calls they will not ask for a mister *
DEPUTY TIJERA SAID NOTHING WAS ABNORMAL AND THAT THIS REPORT OF THE LOS ZETAS WAS INTERNET RUMOR AND THAT THEIR PATROLS WERE NOT CONDUCTING ANYTHING OUT OF THE ORDINARY.
SHE SAID SHE DIDN'T KNOW WHERE THE STORY STARTED BUT AFFIRMED AGAIN THAT IT WAS ONLY RUMOR.
THANK YOU AND THATS ALL FOLKS.
Sources sighted, numbers given for reference. If you feel the need to verify these statements then do so but nothing is going on in Laredo.
If you examine the examiner report it is cut from the digger report and other information is added. These reports are being given out to cause reaction and give their authors names and give them a sense of credibility.
Internet rumor and lies is what it is as they try to fire up patriots into doing something stupid.
Please verify and confirm if you need to as again the source are provided.
Thank you and GOD Bless.
Posted by: RL Smith on July 24, 2010 10:48 PM
Digger you asked for those claiming to do a driveby should provide pics! Why should they be the ones who have to attempt to corroborate their story when it is yours that is being denied by every reputable source available, police, sheriff's, border patrol etc.
You provide numbers to your source I did mine or is that too hard to do?
Your phony story is as phony as your sources.
Posted by: RL Smith on July 24, 2010 10:53 PM
You reported a "bloodbath," or have you forgotten already.
Posted by: Oscar Zeta Acosta on July 24, 2010 11:09 PM
You reported a "bloodbath," or have you forgotten already.
Go read it again. The bloodbath is in reference to the continued shootouts along the border, there is no statement of bloodbaths at the ranches.
As for the mud slinging, sling away. I have put my name on the line, you have put an anonymous moniker on the line. As a reader I would put my faith in the veteran blogger of 8 years, with a proven track record, rather than some commenter who just showed up a few hours ago.
I stand by the story. You obviously have not read what a media blackout entails.
I'm near Laredo but not close enough to confirm things. Other people have called Laredo PD and, depending on who they spoke with and at what time during the day, got information that confirmed Digger's story. Now, however, the Laredo PD denies it completely. No clue what's going on at this point.
Posted by: Ricardo on July 24, 2010 11:59 PM
Confederate Yankee is reporting that it is nothing more than rumor that grew legs:
NOTE: Audio ad at that site ... wish they would outlaw those things.
And raises two good questions that should be easy to verify:
* What are the names and exact addresses of the ranches that were taken over?
* What are the names of the ranchers and families that were displaced?
Posted by: crosspatch on July 25, 2010 12:11 AM
"As a reader I would put my faith in the veteran blogger of 8 years, with a proven track record"
Proven track record.. 8 yrs.. I guess its time to put your money where you mouth is and close shop.. If you are not man enough to simply say you screwed up and let it be.. then that tells the internet world where you stand....
The real story here is what agenda are you trying to push?
Laredo Resident, considering this story just broke and on a weekend, your passion isn't really called for quite yet. No evidence either way that this is a fruad, and multiple people I've spoken with have made the claim that they called the Laredo PD earlier during the day and got confirmation. We'll find out the truth of this probably in a day or two.
Posted by: Ricardo on July 25, 2010 01:00 AM
The thing is you can't prove a negative. All we have so far is someone reporting what someone else said. You can't prove what isn't true, you can only prove what is true. So far I am not seeing anything concrete that says a specific ranch was taken over or anyone coming forward saying their ranch was taken over.
Considering how close the border is to the main highway in that area, if there were any such activity there, hundreds of people would have seen it from the highway. As far as I can tell as of this moment, nobody has reported seeing anything. That FM 1472 route (Mines Road) is the main route West out of Laredo. It is a divided highway. There would be quite a bit of traffic on it. The area reported as the trouble site is less than 1 mile off the highway (the Mexican border is less than 1 mile from the highway in that location).
Posted by: crosspatch on July 25, 2010 01:21 AM
Now, if the members of this "cartel" are American citizens, please note that the hands of law enforcement are tied. They can do whatever they wish, put up their hands, and land safely in the comforts of Miranda and the Rule of Law.
This is, after all, why the drug cartels love doing business here.
You idiots it's obvious the Zeta invaders were abducted by space Aliens and taken to Mar's.
Posted by: little bear on July 25, 2010 05:02 AM
IF the story is true - IF! - a blackout would seem most prudent for a very simple, non-nefarious reason: I can imagine a very large army of very angry Texans heading out that way – we’ve all had it up to here with this administration’s arrogant refusal to do its job at the border and an incident like this would be the last straw for a lot of people.
While I trade stocks often I make a mistake. When I do I get out of the trade asap, so I have funds left to trade with. This story is no different. We write articles on facts we pick up from various sources along the way. We then reprint what we believe is true. If something changes that and we realize we're wrong, we retract and recant. If we continue, for we fear lack of future respect, we loose that respect. At some point the true fact's will simply out weigh the false ones. *If your right on standing your ground and continuing to push the story, then we will be the ones feeling like loons, if your wrong, well I'm sure folk's will still come to your site as this is the type of reading they enjoy*
Posted by: GAlexander on July 25, 2010 01:40 PM
this web site says you admitted you made it all up....http://messageboards.aol.com/aol/en_us/articles.php?boardId=529805&articleId=818045&func=6&channel=Member+Guided+News&filterRead=false&filterHidden=true&filterUnhidden=false?????
Posted by: mark on July 25, 2010 01:47 PM
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Of course the story is fake. Here's HOW you KNOW the story is fake.
No names mentioned, all anonymous sources, the story comes from New York City. Sorry, you guys, we're not just that pussy down here. Maybe YOU people are. But we're not. If this were real, you have the names of the ranchers, you'd have the addresses of the ranches, you'd have police activity, you'd have roadblocks, you'd have reporters tripping over themselves, everybody would be on the record, ranchers included. You'd have neighborhood people up in arms. We're just not that intimidated by these clowns. We would be on the record. Just like Paul Babeu was on national news about his death threats.
Plus if the Zetas want a ranch, all they have to do is buy one. Or rent one. They HAVE the money, trust me. They have no need of strongarming established ranchers which will engage a retaliation.
"Plus if the Zetas want a ranch, all they have to do is buy one. Or rent one."
I would be surprised if they haven't already.
Posted by: crosspatch on July 25, 2010 02:21 PM
the story comes from New York City
Talk about misinformation, none of this story reporting has come from New York City.
this web site says you admitted you made it all up
I have said no such thing. I stand by the story.
Also of note, several of the people above are the same person using different names to post, as they all post using the same Internet Protocol. Of particular note in this regard is "BP who works this location".
I have read Diggers articles since 2007 and never found any of his articles to be a "hoax". For those here bashing Digger and his site, I am sure this story caused you to visit for the first time and you are drawing conclusions based on this one story.
I, as anyone should, read any article with caution. However, if one stops to think about this, initially reports were confirmed with names provided. Then the denial.If this is true and leaked through credible sources against the desires of the powers that be, exactly what would you expect the agencies to do.
I have no idea if this is true or not however since I live in Texas, I would not be one bit surprised. Much worse has already happened yet most of you have never heard about it. After all hasn't the DHS stated how secure our borders are?
I have always known Diggers Blog to provide credible information. I am certain he will continue to research this story and if it turns out not to be factual, he will retract it.
Posted by: Dakota on July 25, 2010 03:42 PM
Digger and I have been (independently) covering immigration issues in relative obscurity on this issue for about the same amount of time; it's not like he'd stake his reputation for a spike of traffic. While it's certainly possible that this story is true, it's also possible that the original source for the story isn't telling the truth or is just confused.
Overall, the best thing to do about this issue is to use leverage: get those in a position of power (politicians, MSM reporters, religious leaders, etc.) to support our laws. The way to do that is to make it difficult for them to lie, mislead, or support illegal immigration. And, the way you do that is to embarrass them to their face on video by calling them on their lies, asking questions they'll have trouble answering, and so on.
Some of the negativity against Digger may be coming from William Gheen of ALIPAC. As humans we make mistakes. Is it possible Digger jumped the gun, maybe, but that alone is no reason to crucify him. Let's give the real story time to unfold before making judgements. Even if the stories turn out to be untrue, Digger doesn't deserve to be crucified for making one single bad call over an eight year period. IMHO, one goof in judgement shouldn't erase all the good things and hard work Digger has done over the last eight years.
From the ALIPAC website:
"ADVISORY: Los Zetas Ranch Occupation Story Is Probably Bogus
Friends of ALIPAC,
As the primary focal point of information flows regarding the borders and illegal immigration, ALIPAC has both released astounding information to the public that was verified and we have stopped stories that were fakes.
Many of you will remember the fake Shawna Ford photos, and some other false stories and rumors that ALIPAC took steps to quell.
Today, we are issuing an advisory that the story being circulated on many blogs titled "Mexican Cartels Invade Texas" or "LOS ZETAS TAKES OVER TEXAS RANCHES" that was written by blogger Dan Amato aka Digger is unconfirmed. In fact, it is starting to look like it is completely false.
While we will hold the door open for the possibility there's some fire with this smoke, the story claims that the paramilitary drug and alien importing gang Los Zetas had invaded our side of the border and taken over several ranches in the US thus sending the American occupants running for their lives.
In the past, materials from Dan Amato were welcome at ALIPAC, but his materials are no longer allowed in our archives after we observed Digger writing and attempting to publicize false information on multiple occasions.
The current story he has circulated has not been confirmed using any of the standards or practices we would use, or any professional would use, to verify before releasing such claims.
Claiming that military grade forces have actually seized US territory is not a matter that should be treated lightly. The threat of that happening is very real and the intense and costly reaction to such an incident is nothing to take chances with. Dan Amato took a lot of chances and ran a story that was just a rumor.
Now we have reports from local law enforcement, local media, and citizens who live in the area Digger claims is under Los Zeta occupation and they all say there's nothing like that happening in the area.
While ALIPAC has documented, and fought against, many legitimate media blackouts on stories like these, we are not seeing the usual patterns that we have experienced before around this story. This coupled with the fact that Digger of Digger's Realm BLOG acted on complete hearsay from a lone second hand source might indicate that a media blackout is not the true problem.
We will advise everyone, if this story changes or actual verification or evidence surfaces.
Until then we are advising everyone not to post or circulate the unverified claims by Digger that Los Zetas has taken over ranches in Texas.
Furthermore, no new materials by Dan Amato or Digger's Realm are allowed in ALIPAC's archives because those materials do not meet our quality standards and we have a big problem with groups or individuals who make sensational claims without proper verification and confirmation that our readers and activists would expect.
The ALIPAC Team
Posted by: MW on July 25, 2010 05:14 PM
I've never been to Laredo (but I stand behind Dan). It's a Sunday afternoon and am curious as to what these bridges normally look like.....so reposting this from above -
Do the international bridges in Laredo always look so empty?
HATERS...Hold up! This is a blog. I had NEVER heard of Diggers Realm until yesterday, so I am not standing up for a friend. It seems he attempted to do the right thing. WE CAN NO LONGER TRUST THE NEWS MEDIA! We have to get our information on the internet and it won't always be correct. TRUST BUT VERIFY!! The truth has emerged. It was a false story. Move on realizing that reporter is a new job title of r each of us!! In order to get our country back, we have to work together and we can't infight over small issues! TRUST BUT VERIFY, Reagan said that and this couldn't make it more relavent!!
Posted by: Little Miss Liberty on July 25, 2010 06:03 PM
If this story was true, someone in the patriot community would have driven down there by now probably a group of them and would have gotten some video of law enforcement closing the roads at the very least, news blackout or not! They get video out of countries like Iran and even North Korea under penalty of death? We seem to hear about every little thing going on in the border region nowdays even "rock throwing Mexican teenagers" who don't have the wits to know better than to throw projectiles at armed Border Agents! While I am sympathetic to the cause, I am skeptical about this story and believe it is either a local domestic dispute thrown way out of proportion or a hoax? There is no confirmation from any authority publically, media outlets on either side of the border (I know Spanish), nada! I used to live down their a few years back and I even called a friend who still lives in Laredo and he drove down there and seen nothing, no blockade, nothing going on? If anything was going on, there would be law enforcement roadblocks at the very least as well as a bunch of media and other interested parties?
Posted by: Skeptic on July 25, 2010 06:06 PM
Hello ladies and gentlemen, he is called a LIAR!
What he is doing is LYING!
Why is that so hard to say? L...i...a....r!
Posted by: coldending on July 25, 2010 06:11 PM
Say it now.
La, la, la.
I'a, i'a, i'a
errr, errr, errr.
thats right, l...i...a...r... Good I think you got it.
Posted by: coldending on July 25, 2010 06:12 PM
No update in almost 24 hours? Not even a confirmation of how good your sources are?
This ain't looking so good.
Posted by: Jay on July 25, 2010 06:20 PM
Can't vouch for the truth to tale of this story but to answer the questions about the bridges...
As of late, yes they have been relatively empty with much more northbound traffic than southbound (as can be seen and verified on the cameras). With the increase in violence and fighting, along with recent floods, movement has been hampered greatly. Not two weeks ago, a load I took down there to be forwarded across the border was rerouted to Pharr, TX. That is happening more and more. I spent the night in Laredo and because our yard is right on the river I was able to witness firsthand the dramatic increase in sounds of gunfire and explosions versus my many previous trip there. To be honest...it sounded like a war zone across the border.
Is what this story claims possible...absolutely. Is it likely? Not really. The cartels and gangs have enough to do fighting the Mexican Federal Police...it would be foolish to spread thier resources thinner just to piss in the US's Cheerios. Why fight two wars when you really only have to fight one at the present? It is illogical and a poor tactical move. To do what it is claimed they have done would only serve to make them a "sandwich" between US and Mexican forces....which is a fairly indefensible position unless you have a very large army to begin with.
Posted by: TXTruckDrvr on July 25, 2010 06:47 PM
And it is bad for business. And first and foremost they are businessmen. Eight years. Flushed. What an imbecile. And no, he doesn't get slack for doing good work before. How do we know it was good work? He can't admit error. Stand behind him? Yeah. Way behind him
Posted by: Veritas on July 25, 2010 09:08 PM
Seems like it's way past time for Digger and/or Dvorak to identify the sources of this misinformation or explain the alternative, no?
There are quite a few people - among them Ann Coulter - who believe that Breitbart was deliberately 'targeted' with misinformation in order to destroy his credibility. That seems to have backfired, but it may point to a pattern since we now know that a lot of The Left Wing Media coverage supporting Obama was coordinated behind the scenes via Journolist. It will not be a surprise if information provided to Dvorak or anyone else as 'confirmation' turned out to be similar disinformation, intended to go viral and thus discredit anyone who reported it.
So let's have it. Who were the confirming sources and what was their claim?
Also of note, several of the people above are the same person using different names to post, as they all post using the same Internet Protocol. Of particular note in this regard is "BP who works this location"."
This say's a lot about your intelligence level and your motives... Why not come clean and admit your motives on this? Standing by a completely false story after being slapped in the face by multiple reliable sources... wow...
Posted by: A Laredo Resident on July 25, 2010 09:52 PM
digger,i read about this on snopes last night. it was the same story. i had to check it out because another oathkeeper said something about it. NOW,snopes has the page deleted. WTF? i realize snopes is in the tank for obama,but arent they supposed to be THE factfinders?
it really ticks me off that a know it all jerk calls himself a laredo resident throws snipes at you without knowing wtf he is talking about. i would bet anything that obama and holder are covering this up for their political bull$&)_
Posted by: herbert stamper on July 25, 2010 10:12 PM
herbert stamper... Time to go take your medication... you have lost it son....
Posted by: A Laredo Resident on July 25, 2010 10:38 PM
Total Bullshit and I think Digger knows that, especially using sources like Dvorak and Schwilk. But hey, birds of a feather!
No blood bath in Nuevo Laredo where I am now. Only some narcos that got stupid for the last 30 minutes of their life until the Mexican military and Federales did their jobs and took them out.
[Link removed - I don't allow links to hate sites - Digger]
I do not have a forum.. or a website or any other page to push a agenda... I am just a simple resident of Laredo Tx. that is tired of all the misimformation being blasted over the internet by individuals pushing a onesided agenda...
Posted by: A laredo resident on July 25, 2010 11:32 PM
You don't allow links to hate sites Digger? Or only sites that expose your Patriot for Profit agenda.
Seems like you had the hate site ALIPAC here for a long time until you and Gheen got into your little merry fairy pissing match with one another.
You learned all his bad habits son.
No hate on the site link you deleted. Only disgust at how you spin and distort things to line your pockets.
1. ALIPAC is not a hate site. I think they are simply in it for the money with all their fundraising that they do nothing with.
2. Your website most certainly is a hate site as you are viciously hateful in attacks on those you don't agree with and are out to not just rebut them, but to destroy them personally.
3. I am not paid to do this.
I am not paid to do this either and your are still getting me confused with Gheen and his site.
Gheen viciously attacks and bans anyone who dares to disagree with him. Hell, you should know that. You experienced his "friendship" and vindictiveness first hand or was that just another bogus report.
And son, you're fuckng A right I will do anything within my power to expose these nutjobs on both sides of the issue to destroy their credibility and perhaps drive the debate bacl to a more centrist point of view.
People like JT Ready and other nutjobs who think Mexicans are sub humans are on my radar
It no different at all than what you, Gheen and others do to make the Hispanics in this country appear to be a threat to America and the people. Most are good hard working people who contribute to our country and don't deserve to be painted with the same broad brush of bigotry that Gheen and others do daily.
Why is this so hard to believe? I live in AZ and a large portion of our state, has been ceeded to the drug cartels. Signs are posted, (the northernmost sign 30 south of Phx). The Pinal County sheriff states that they have no control over this wide area from Casa Grande to Gila Bend and then south to the border. Drug Cartel lookouts are posted in the hills in this area. Phx is number 1 kidnapping capital (illegals) and number 2 in home invasion. We are up at the top in ID theft. Illegal immigration is not a victimless crime. I guess that the MSM has a hard time admitting that Texas maybe in control of the Drug Cartels, just like a LARGE portion of Arizona is.
Posted by: chick on July 26, 2010 02:41 AM
Another comment about Illegal Immigration.
Illegal Immigrants break laws.
If they are working in the US, they are either (1) working under the table, cash, don't pay income tax or SS, medicare, medicade. OR (2) If they are paying income taxes, then they are using FALSE DOCUMENTS and/or STOLEN ID'S.
There is no way around these facts. It's one or the other. In either case, it's tax evasion OR False ID's and documents.
An American citizen or Legal Resident would be in trouble for committing felonies for fake Identification, fake SS, false claims for Benefits, stolen ID, and these are punishable by (in the case of SS) by 5 years in the pen and up to 250K fines.
A legal resident committing these felonies, probably would be deported after trial, no citizenship. The legal resident could be found and prosecuted.
An American citizen could be found and prosecuted for crimes that mostly go unpunished when done by illegal immigrants.
This is a direct violation of the EQUAL PROTECTION CLAUSE. No one "class or group" of people can escape the application of the law. Millions of Illegals working, with false or stolen ID's, and the Feds want to pardon them. DMX went to jail for that. Using a fake name at a hospital to avoid paying the 9K bill.
The selective service law is also being violated. Those here between the ages of 18-26 (?) must register for Selective Service. I wonder how many Illegals have done that? I'm willing to bet, hardly any except for those few who join the military to earn citizenship.
this country is based on the rule of law. anyone here illegally and working, has broken the law. period.
What about a pardon then for your garden variety American citizen who uses false pretenses to score: benefits, a job, SS card, mortgage, .....?
what crimes will go unpunished next?
I don't want to live in an America, that treats it's citizen with such disrespect and UNEQUAL treatment under the Constitution.
Posted by: chick on July 26, 2010 02:56 AM
Ooooh... she worked with BREITBART..on the ACORN scandal... where it was shown the videos were doctored and many showing ACORN workers upholding their honor were not released... THAT Dvorak??
Oh, well.. in THAT case... THE STORY'S A FAKE. JUST WAIT.
Are the "law-abiding" white people scared enough already? You've already got scary black people on TV "intimidating" and "dissing white farmers". Now you want to start pointing guns at Hispanics?
Sad. Very, very sad.
Posted by: Catt Cantu on July 26, 2010 08:54 AM
Hey Digger, thanks for putting your neck out for this. It's funny to see Leftist operatives and their simplistic (and juvenile) calls for your head. I've read this thoroughly and it seems to me you've done nothing more than publish a potential incident and ask for confirmation.
If you were had, so too was the entire US media over the Gulf of Tonkin hoax and "I did not have sexual realtions with that woman, Miss Lewinssky".
However, Laredo is a sizable town. I'd find the local radio scanning enthusiast club and see what they heard on the dates in question. If genuine, the initial responses would have been in the clear although any present activity would no doubt be scrambled/encrypted.
Posted by: Joeofthemountain on July 26, 2010 10:14 AM
I don't understand. Since when did "hard working" become the sole criterion for US Citizenship, let alone transmogrification to "American"?
My forefathers were the Pilgrim Fathers and French Huguenots who built this country with their bare hands (after buying it from the Indians, I should add).
Obviously, survival-level migration from a land without resources to a land with resources is understandable -- even ants do it -- but it completely ignores the basic point that...
YOUR PEOPLE ARE NOT WELCOME HERE. Do I care if they meander, herd like, into Texas or Arizona? Not really. But it bothers and concerns me quite a lot that the Anglo-American rules of conduct allow them, once legitimized via any dubious method, to migrate again to my land -- one of the Original 13 colonies.
So no. Not acceptable. Not on my watch. Over my dead body. Your invading horde, hard working, criminal or otherwise, IS NOT WELCOME, NOT WANTED AND NOT INVITED.
If you disallow the concept of private property and State sovereignty, then you cede any morality and subject yourself to the law of the jungle, a fight I guarantee you and your "peeps" will lose.
Is this what you want? A bloodbath?
I do not think so. So take this opportunity for a reality check and leave, peaceably, while the window of opportunity remains open.
Realpolitik and "politics by other means" are about to commence.
Joe of the Mountain
Posted by: Joeofthemountain on July 26, 2010 10:24 AM
"I've read this thoroughly and it seems to me you've done nothing more than publish a potential incident and ask for confirmation."
Either fish or cut bait already.....
Posted by: Jay on July 26, 2010 10:27 AM
This story is a hoax! People on the ground there looked and nothing is going on! I've even spoken to the Garza family (the one's whose ranches were allegedly seized) and they say it is a hoax.
I just got off the phone with the PIO with Laredo's PD. He flatly denied that it being true. He even invited me down there to go out and see for myself that nothing is going on. That does not sound like a cover-up to me.
Please, tell all of the boards and contacts who are spreading this story that it is totally false.
Posted by: GPMinTexas on July 26, 2010 01:13 PM
I have a bridge for sale in NYC
Posted by: Tommy Tancredo the racist on July 26, 2010 01:17 PM
Man Digger, these comments are unreal. Talk about "the wolf pack". I wonder how many could withstand similar scrutiny as much as I wonder how many actually do something productive with their lives.
On average, the typical poster here seems to be adolescent, possibly disturbed, certainly not operating in good will.
Not that it's my blog but there has got to be something more valuable for you to do than attract this bunch of lunatics and unstable personalities.
Posted by: Joeofthemountain on July 26, 2010 02:23 PM
If it were anyone else besides Jeff Schwilk and the Examiner, I just might believe it but sorry Digger, you fell for it. Jeff Schwilk has become San Diego Counties number one kook, see scandal under every rock, alligns himself with the uber right like malitias and same on the Examiner for being his press agent. I checked with everyone I know in the area, fellow ham radio operators who routinely monitor radio traffic and every paper and station within 100 miles, nothing. We all had a good scare, time to move on. If you need to contact Jeff Schwilk in the future, I suggest using his number at Florence Colorado.
Posted by: Ray Carney on July 26, 2010 02:23 PM
this story is real!!! last night when i was being abducted by aliens they confirmed that they had a mole inside the mexican cartels, and that the los zetas ranch story is correct!
they also gave me more information!!! i hope everyone is locked and loaded because they also told me that the invasion is a ruse, its a front operation to cover up the impending space alien invasion!!!
dont let this blindside you! the real threat is coming while we are busy fighting the mexicans!!! we need to watch the sky and shoot anything that flies out of it!!
stop the space aliens taking away our liberties!!!!
Posted by: bethany on July 26, 2010 05:33 PM
Russo squad posting on here?
Posted by: chick on July 26, 2010 07:21 PM
Be aware that I found 5 different profiles posting under different names all from the same IP located in Mexico
These profiles were spreading disinformation and also racial slurs. Not everything is as it seems on the internet.
Yes, the thing I found unlikely at first was that a group like Zetas would storm a ranch house, and by staying there, focus attention on an indefensible position.... they may well 'storm' a ranch but I wouldn't stay inside of it. How strategic is that?.. a more effective statement of territory 'ownership' is getting the feds to deny public lands to Americans as too dangerous to recreate in.
Posted by: ChickenLittle on July 27, 2010 03:08 AM
Digger, That you posted the story when you thought it was rel was admirable. Every patriot should be vigilant at all times. You thought that you had it confirmed. Great.
But now that many people have been down to the alleged scene of the crime and found nothing out of the ordinary, it is time for you to man up and admit that you got taken.
Perhaps your source lied to you to discredit you personally or to make fools of the anti-illegal immigration movement. They've done both. But your continued insistence on the story being true is damaging not just your reputation but the whole movement as well. We are all being splattered with the abuse being hurled at you over this.
Please do the right thing and post a retraction. Being fooled is no shame. Standing by it once it has been proven to be a lie is a shame.
Check my e-mail and IP. I am clearly shown to be in San Antonio, TX. Not Mexico. I have turned off my Tor proxy so that my real IP should have been posted in your log files. It will traceroute back to RR in SATX.
Posted by: GPMinTexas on July 28, 2010 02:44 PM
I'm really starting to wonder if anyone has actually read the story. This all happened Friday night/Saturday morning, there was not a lot known at the time as is quite clear in the story, but there was indeed something happening.
For some reason people seem to think this was a massive army of Los Zetas and they were barricaded in the ranches and still are. That is not what the story ever said. It said the numbers weren't known, the situation wasn't known and yet people keep insinuating that the standoff is still going on and that they can drive out there and see that there is nothing going on now.
Whether the situation was over within an hour or less is unknown. The results of the activity are unknown. Something indeed happened and time will tell.
I'm not sure why everyone is demanding that I retract a story that is known to be true due to reliable sources - I do question the motives of those who continue to barrage me with those demands though. If you question it fine. I do not. I'm not really too concerned with how people view me as I'll stand by my principles and continue working on this issue (which I'm sure a few of you are afraid of).