Rep Joe Wilson (R-SC) is under attack by the left and the RINOs in Congress for shouting "You Lie" at President Obama when he stated that illegal aliens would not be covered under his proposed health care bills.
I was thrilled and uttered a few supportive expletive laden shouts of support for Rep Wilson when he did it.
Now Wilson is under fire from lead RINO, Senator John McCain, who is calling for an apology. Also in line are a ton of Democrats who are trying to tear Wilson apart. Others are saying that things like this are what are driving people away from the Republican party. I find that last claim to be the furthest from the truth.
I'd ask all of you pretenders who are acting offended - and it is all an act - which is more obscene? The one man lying to 300 million people under the guise of "clearing up controversies" or the one man pointing out that the first man is outright lying?
The Republicans have sat by and done nothing for years. They haven't spoken out, they haven't stuck to their beliefs. If anything Wilson's outburst is exactly what the Republican party needs... pointing out the truth and sticking to your beliefs.
Illegals will be covered by proposed legislation and Obama was outright lying to the American people on national television. He didn't expect anyone to call him out on it and that is why these people are truly pissed off.
Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) and Democratic leaders are calling on Rep. Joe Wilson (R-S.C.) to apologize for heckling President Obama as a liar.
Wilson shouted to the president "you lie" after Obama said illegal immigrants would not benefit from health insurance coverage from the reform bill. Obama glared disgustedly in the direction the remark came from, as did Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) and Vice President Joe Biden.
House Democratic Whip James Clyburn (D-S.C.) called Wilson's outburst "embarrassing," while McCain said it was "totally disrespectful" and that there was "no place for it in that setting or any other."
McCain said Wilson "should apologize for it immediately."
Clyburn said South Carolina was already suffering because of Gov. Mark Sanford. "Now we got one of out Congresspeople to drive our reputation to a new low."
And here's why illegal aliens will be covered under the health care bill:
A new report by the Congressional Research Service (CRS) validates that numerous loopholes may allow illegal immigrants to benefit under the bill.
According to CRS: “Under H.R. 3200, a ‘Health Insurance Exchange’ would begin operation in 2013 and would offer private plans alongside a public option…H.R. 3200 does not contain any restrictions on noncitzens—whether legally or illegally present, or in the United States temporarily or permanently—participating in the Exchange.”
No verification mechanism: Democrats point to language in the House bill that says illegal immigrants cannot get benefits. While that may be technically accurate, it is far from the truth.
The fact is that the statement is meaningless because the bill contains no verification mechanism to ensure that illegal immigrants do not receive benefits.
Representative Lamar Smith had this to say about it.
“Democrats can keep claiming all they want that illegal immigrants will not be covered in this bill. But their actions speak louder than their words. Democrats have rejected opportunities to close the gaping loopholes in this health care bill that will allow illegal immigrants to participate.
“If President Obama is committed to ensuring that illegal immigrants do not benefit from the bill – as he says he is – why not include the same verification mechanisms in this bill as already exist for other federal benefits programs?
“What’s more, the bill contains no provisions preventing illegal immigrants from participating in the Health Insurance Exchange that is to be created, including the government-run “public plan” that will be available through the federally-run and federally-subsidized Exchange. This is in direct conflict with the President’s claim that illegal immigrants will not be insured under his plan. "
Allowing illegal aliens to receiving services, benefits or amnesty due to "omission" is just as much a strategy as specifically naming illegal aliens in the bill as being able to receive these entitlements. To say they will not be covered after the fact is a lie.
You Lie Obama!
Funny that you don't cite the exact passage in the CRS report on HR 3200... I go to the source, and found in the source absolutely NOTHING that supports what Representative Smith said.
The actual passage discussing this in the CRS report says:
"Under H.R. 3200, Exchange-eligible individuals could receive a credit in the Exchange if they
• are lawfully present in a state in the United States, with some exclusions;15"
"15: Nonimmigrants are those who are in the United States for a specified period of time and a specific purpose. The exceptions include aliens with nonimmigrant status because they are trafficking victims, crime victims, fiancées of U.S.
citizens, or have had applications for legal permanent residence (LPR) status pending for three years. It is expected that almost all aliens in these nonimmigrant categories will become LPRs (i.e., immigrants) and remain in the United States permanently."
Posted by: Leah on September 10, 2009 12:04 PM
I may need to take my previously posted comment back about "loving the site" or at least make it more explicit. I may love the info it provides and surely love the fact that we all have the right to believe what we want, but to cheer Mr Wilson in doing what he did regardless of what one believes in in regards to immigration or health care seems unfathomable to me. There is a time and a place for it and I found the incident disturbing. Reminds me of the videos on the news of representatives in third world new democracies throwing shit at each other or better yet, getting into fights. We should be better than that.
FWIW, I DO hope we can reform health care and do NOT beleive those illegally here should benefit from it with exception to humanitarian situations. God help us as we already pay so damned much for healthcare and still millions do not have healthcare accessible. If indeed we can make the system more efficient and make it happen, we will be a healthier nation and i am willing to pay my share.
And yes, this is a very diplomatic way of saying i disagree.
Posted by: yu888 on September 12, 2009 08:32 PM