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A reader sent in a question to me asking if he should join a white supremacist or white pride organization because he is so fed up with the current invasion going on by illegal aliens into this country. My answer to this reader, whom I'll call John, is a flat out no. I understand the frustrations of John and others like him that are angry over this issue - and the lack of our government in actually doing something about it. I understand his frustration at the contempt leveled at us by the illegal aliens coming here. I understand his frustration at the corrupt organizations and government agencies that are pushing this illegal alien agenda. But the fact of the matter is that racism is wrong. And John's anger is not directed at the proper thing.

I'd like to ask John what his opinion of racist groups like La Raza, MEChA, the Hispanic Caucus, the Black Caucus, the Black Panthers and any other group that focuses solely on race is? I'd venture to guess that he would view them in a low light. The same light he would be viewed in should he also join a despicable group that follows the same creed, only supporting a different color of people than they do. I'm sure John views them with an utter contempt at their openly racist agendas of putting "their race" before - and at the expense of - others, rather than pushing the purpose of which this country was founded on - that of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness for all.

John's anger is directed at the wrong thing. John is not angry with their race, he is angry with the lack of assimilation of legal immigrants and the openly breaking of our laws and demands of illegal aliens. He is angry with their culture stepping on ours. He is angry with our culture being disregarded and our laws being ignored. He is angry with their thumbing their noses at us and parts of this country that have been overrun by other cultures to the point where he can't go into them without getting angry or odd stares in his own country. For people like John, who have secretly or openly contemplated the question of joining a white pride or white supremacist group, I would like to pose a few simple questions to them.

  1. Do you consider Border Patrol Agents Ignacio Ramos and Jose Compean heroes?
  2. Do you think people like La Shawn Barber are worthless and should be done away with?
  3. Do you think Michelle Malkin doesn't deserve to live?
  4. Do you think that Jimi Hendrix should have been strung up?
  5. Do you think that the people of You Don't Speak For Me are your enemies?
  6. How about the 442nd combat team made up of Japanese-Americans during World War 2?
  7. Amarjit Singh of New York City, an American Citizen from India, who saved an old woman's life (who just happens to be white) when she was attacked by a knife wielding crazy man, with no concern for his own safety?

La Shawn Barber and Michelle Malkin
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Because the reality is John, that race is not the issue. No matter how many times I've been called a racist, a hate monger or a bigot, it simply isn't the case. The supporters of illegal aliens like to paint it in that light, but the reality is they have no leg to stand on. Illegal aliens are breaking the law whether they come from Mexico or Ireland or Italy or China.

The real enemy here is lack of assimilation. A lack of new immigrants learning our language. A lack of proper selection for entry into the US, which is no longer based on wanting to come here for our values, but is now based simply around wanting a paycheck, being a relative or to soak our social services. The enemy here is an attack on our culture and way of life not race.

All of those people I mentioned above are not white. They are Black, Asian, Indian, and Hispanic, yet they are having the same feelings as you. They are living in the western culture because they love it and want to preserve it and are just as frustrated at this demanding cultural invasion that is threatening our livelihood and the physical safety of all of our family and friends on a daily basis as you are.

So, do you still think joining a racist white hate group is up your alley? Are you prepared to turn your back on the likes of Ramos and Compean, American heroes of Hispanic descent, and to turn your back on selfless heroes like Amarjit Singh, simply out of frustration? You may have realized that statistically the majority of illegal aliens that are coming here are Hispanic and reacted based off of this fact. I think your reaction is not well thought out though and your anger is misdirected at something that is not the root cause of the issue. I also think that maybe, just maybe, the supporters of illegal immigration have actually gotten to you and made you believe that this is a race issue when it is not.

My suggestion to you John is to join a pro-Western Culture group or a pro-America group, not a race based group. Your love is of our nation and culture, not your race. Plenty of people from all races have contributed to the western culture we all enjoy. People you would call friend. The beauty of our culture is that it really doesn't matter if you are a man or a woman or whether you are black, white, red, yellow or brown. In a western culture everybody who participates and believes in it matters.

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Posted by Digger on October 18, 2007 04:20 AM (Permalink)

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I agree with your sentiments on the trap of joining a "race only" group is not the answer - just because *they* are doing it doesn't make it *right* to do. However, I don't think being part of a *white pride* group means people who feel proud of their race want to go around lynching people or doing away with the other race. That is exactly what is wrong with this picture. If you have Hispanic Pride, people don't assume you want to wipe all other races off the earth. But if you have White Pride they do. Not fair and not correct.

It's time for Americans to be Americans, not Asian-American or Latino-American or Italian-American and it's time for ALL race based groups to be called out for what they are - racist. We need to defuse the power given to the word "racism". If you are truly not a racist then you will see no difference in people based on the color of their skin and THAT also applies to how minorities view white skin as well.

Posted by: Ruthiness on October 18, 2007 09:11 AM

Maybe not lynch them, but your comment is contradictory.

On the one hand you are saying it is fine to join a White Pride group, then on the other you are saying we should do away with "ALL race based groups".

It's one thing to be a part of a St. Paddy's Day parade or Chinese New Year thing that celebrates cultural heritage and it is quite another to be ready to sell out the country you live in at the drop of a hat. Split loyalty cannot exist in a country that wants to move forward.

Groups like White Supremacists and White Pride are just as divisive as groups like La Raza and the Black Panthers.

You say it's time to do away with the hyphenated Americans, yet you start off your comment by saying it should be fine to be associated as a "White-American" in essence. It simply won't work.

I leave you with this quote from Teddy Roosevelt (you may substitute the word nationality with the word race where appropriate, as split allegiance in any way - whether it be race or nationality - should be condemned).

There is no room in this country for hyphenated Americanism. When I refer to hyphenated Americans, I do not refer to naturalized Americans. Some of the very best Americans I have ever known were naturalized Americans, Americans born abroad. But a hyphenated American is not an American at all.

This is just as true of the man who puts "native" before the hyphen as of the man who puts German or Irish or English or French before the hyphen. Americanism is a matter of the spirit and of the soul. Our allegiance must be purely to the United States. We must unsparingly condemn any man who holds any other allegiance. But if he is heartily and singly loyal to this Republic, then no matter where he was born, he is just as good an American as any one else.

The one absolutely certain way of bringing this nation to ruin, of preventing all possibility of its continuing to be a nation at all, would be to permit it to become a tangle of squabbling nationalities, an intricate knot of German-Americans, Irish-Americans, English- Americans, French-Americans, Scandinavian- Americans, or Italian-Americans, each preserving its separate nationality, each at heart feeling more sympathy with Europeans of that nationality than with the other citizens of the American Republic.

The men who do not become Americans and nothing else are hyphenated Americans; and there ought to be no room for them in this country. The man who calls himself an American citizen and who yet shows by his actions that he is primarily the citizen of a foreign land, plays a thoroughly mischievous part in the life of our body politic. He has no place here; and the sooner he returns to the land to which he feels his real heart-allegiance, the better it will be for every good American.

- Teddy Roosevelt Addressing the Knights of Columbus in New York City 12 October 1915

Posted by: Digger on October 18, 2007 10:07 AM

Isn't it illegal for Caucasian folks to start or participate in a Whites Only group?

Now if you're any other race, you can have groups ad Infinitum.

I'd venture to say that if you started a White Race only group, the NAACP, ACLU, and a whole host of other groups would sue the pants off you! After all, you're rich. you're the White guy. The one who has everything fed to you on a silver platter with a silver spoon.

Yeah. Right.

Posted by: Dougie on October 19, 2007 02:32 PM

You missed my point Digger. I don't think we should have ANY hyphenated Americans and we should not have race-based groups at all. But if we continue to allow groups like La Ratza and NAACP to promote only "their own" then I think it should be fine for the white race to do the same. None of these groups promote lynching anyone *including* most of the "white pride" groups. Until all race based groups are not tolerated, then there should be no reason the white race cannot form their own "whites only" group too. I'm tired of the double standard frankly and reverse discrimination.

Posted by: Ruthiness on October 22, 2007 01:34 AM

Oh and it's St PATTY'S DAY not PADDY. Sheesh I thought you were part Irish?

Posted by: Ruthiness on October 22, 2007 02:10 AM

Oh and it's St PATTY'S DAY not PADDY. Sheesh I thought you were part Irish?

I am, and that's why I spelled it the right way:


Saint Patrick's Day (Irish: Lá ’le Pádraig or Lá Fhéile Pádraig), colloquially St. Paddy's Day or Paddy's Day

Posted by: Digger on October 22, 2007 02:20 AM

If white people form their own race-based groups, we are abdicating our postion as Americans. We become as race-identified as the groups that we criticize. We exclude people from other genetic backgrounds from our efforts to preserve American culture. It's not only whites, obviously, who believe in American values and an American heritage.

I have thought a long time about this question because it is so frustrating to see every race under the sun forming racist groups without rebuke. But it's just a burden that we will have to bear as part of protecting an America that is made up of people of all backgrounds.

Posted by: Anonymous on November 11, 2007 01:22 AM

I was born and raised in central Arizona, and over the past few years, my hometown has been taken over by illegal aliens. It got to the point where there was a liquor store on every corner, and mariachi music rattling my windows around the clock. My car and washing machine were repeatedly stripped for parts, and the goats and chickens my new Mexican neighbors kept in their backyards kept sneaking into my yard and making messes. I couldn't complain to them about this, however, since I was the only English-speaker on my block.

My mother, who lived nearby, once filed a complaint on her own illegal alien neighbors. (They were running an unlicensed auto body shop in the apartment complex's parking lot, and the diesel fumes from their equipment were making her sick.) She subsequently received a series of poorly spelled death threats.

Finally, I got sick of that atmosphere and had to move to another county. It's really hard not to become racist in an environment like this. I've been seriously considering joining a white nationalist organization lately, but I think your arguments just talked me off the ledge. Selling out one's American identity for a White identity isn't the answer. We need to drop the hyphens and stick together.

Posted by: Some Chick on November 26, 2007 10:41 PM

I think Malkin ought to be slapped for being a complete idiot though and making fun of other conservatives who are just as patriotic as she thinks she is.

Posted by: NH on March 3, 2008 01:43 AM

OH and yes I think you should join a group to counter the hate groups LaRAZA, MECHA, NAACP, SPLC, ACLU and other hate groups that hate Americans of all colors.

Trouble is, each candidate except one has a member of one of these groups working for them, so how can you win?

Posted by: NH on March 3, 2008 01:46 AM

well if you want to join a group that is okay but people need to stay focoused on solving the problem instead of adding to it! all races in this country need to get along because there are groups out there that do not care if your black or white they want to kill americans and that is us!

Posted by: wolf1 on March 9, 2008 05:13 PM

White Pride is not the hate of other races but the love of our own White Race! if you understand you as a Ang. Saxon needs to Preserve the existance of the White Race and future for White Children. Then YES! Join the Supreme Knights of the Ku Klux Klan. We are not a hate group we are a brotherhood of Christians who believe in saving White Christian America. email supreme_knights_headquarters@yahoo.com
for a application.
God Bless

Posted by: Imperial Palace on March 13, 2008 11:11 PM

You mean of course Racialist? Do you see a difference between cats and dogs? Between mice and fish, between a bear and an ox? Beacuse guess what kids, I dont care what the media says, but if u see difference there then you are a racist! You are a cool, cold blooded racist. You know what? So am I. I see the difference between a cat and a dog, I know a bird from a bee; The word you are looking for child is racialist. Racialist, belief or therein trust that one/sing race/breed is superior to competition and/or other examples.

Do you see the flaw here? No, he shouldnt join a wp group because most are zog controlled anyway, a way to get you to march and have pretty photos taken with your name on a file. If he wants to make a difference to the country, then join a group who isnt run by zog, join the lines the right way, and you'll be able to make a difference!

Brother Gabriel Braun of the second fist, OWK

Posted by: Gabriel on July 1, 2008 10:07 AM

The NAAWP and KKK both "claim" that they only they're only taking pride in their own race but the problem is contained within the websites and actions of both organizations is in fact racist. I am a white american, I take great pride in this I enjoy knowing what people of my descent have accomplished. I have no problem with other races and in fact, have a mixed nephew with whom I love very much. The reason people associate white pride with racism is the double standards and idiotic statements by these organization that have left a stereo-type on anyone who claims white pride. You want to blame someone for this? Talk to the dumb rednecks in the KKK that created the trail you walk in.

As for immigration, legal or illegal. I was born and American, who the hell am I to complain, I did nothing to obtain my citizenship? The one's who should be pissed are the legal immigrants that went through the lengthy process to become a citizen just to watch someone get amnesty for sneeking in. I'd imagine if I lived in the crap hole most of Mexico is (sorry but compared to the states it's the truth) I would want to come here as well. Who are we to turn down extra tax dollars that allowing work vistas would create?

As for the issue of whites being treated differently with less chances for assistance. With the exception of African American scholarships and affirmitive action (which I strongly disagree with), poor whites have just as much opportunity for assistance. I do not feel sorry that the majority of people who live under assistance are minorities in this day in age, I beleive you are responsible for your own actions that result in where you are today. I busted my ass over a period of years to pay for school and work full time all while supporting a family; it's hard work that result in a greater future, nothing great comes easy and it shouldn't!

I do acknowledge that there is a double standard with what is racist and what is not. Racist terminology is what it is regardless of the color of the skin it comes from. If you call me a h*nkey or cr*cker it would offend me (therefore I beleive it should be censored) just as if a white was to call a minority a term such as n*gger or sp*c. And media is the blame for this. It's more opt that a story will show up for white on black crime as a hate crime then vice versa.

Moral of the story, humans are not nice people and nothing will ever change regardless of how many great men and women carve the path. Stupid people will always exist.

Posted by: Randall on August 28, 2008 10:16 PM

Dont agree, get your guns and get ready.

Posted by: Paul on July 17, 2009 06:57 AM

I think that it is an injustice that all of these other racist groups can organize but if white groups organize they are breaking some ancient civil law. At the same time, I would not like to be identified with the KKK or any other hate group. The truth is these groups are much smaller than you think, they just get alot of press. It makes me sick to see white leftist on the air protesting about how wrong it is for white people to be white as well. I don't think they know how cowardly they look to everybody. Black people laugh the hardest at people like that. The racial battle is being fought by a media that is making tons of money off of it. If you really want to battle civil injustice get on your knees and pray. That is where the real power is. Do not let Satan distract you with petty quarrels. If you have a legitimate beef about a discrimination issue contact your congressman, governor, or whoever. I am not saying to avoid the responsibility of making yourself heard. I am just saying that you should do so effectively and not through a hate group.

Posted by: sharpright7 on August 6, 2009 10:40 AM

lol how I love it when people base things on a religious stand point, funny I think. It nothing to do with it try living in a black and spanish area for a while. Hate i can tell you the word hate for me dont even com close to how i feel about you people. anyone know a good group in new york area by all means tell me whom and were.

Posted by: dragon on August 21, 2009 01:31 AM

Why is it O.K. for all other races to be proud of who they are,but if your white and proud you are a racist? If I don't agree with someone elses opinion,give them what they want,or let them run over me, I am a white supremist.The race card is played out,but for some people it has worked so well for so long to get them what they want that racism is the first thing they cry.

Posted by: Allen Weatherly on October 6, 2009 04:09 PM

While I agree that we should all be American first and foremost, the problem I see is this. Organized groups such as La Raza, NAACP and others is just that, they are organized lobbying groups that have political pull for there race. Many of them hide behind the facade of being a "civil liberties" group but for a certain race.

When La Raza's voice can be heard in D.C. about there view on "immigration reform" aka amnesty so clearly it is frustrating that whites do not have the same. Yes while the majority of politicians and law makers are indeed white they are still pushed or pulled by the promise of votes and lobbying of special interest groups.

I was born white.I was born American. I am tired of being punished for something I had no control over. We all need to be heard as Americans or we need organized representation for whites like other races have.

Posted by: Bungle on May 4, 2010 01:58 PM

How is joining a white pride organization racist? But it is okay to join the NAACP? I dont understand this. I too disagree with racism, but in the most racist country in the world, (the US) with laws MANDATING racism against white people in both job hiring and school admission (It is called AFFIRMATIVE ACTION, LOOK IT UP), why are only white people forbidden to band together. Stick together white Americans, every one else does!!

Posted by: bill hensen on May 9, 2010 01:37 AM

the most racist country in the world, (the US)

You are kidding right? Travel around the world sometime then come back and tell me how racist the United States is. You can start in Japan, a country I actually love and lived in for years. Tell me how "diverse" their population is and how much opportunity they give to others of a different race.

Posted by: Digger on May 10, 2010 12:35 AM

Niggers and Mexicans (especially Niggers) are way out of control........Stepping all over white people, thinking we are too scared to do anything about it.......Not anymore you fucking low life pieces of total Shit! We are fed up! We are about to start killing you worthless MFer's....get ready.....ready or not it's coming and we will put an end to these modern day system sucking leeches once and for aaaaallllllll!

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